From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 11:48:57 -0700, obe1990 wrote:   
      
   >   
   > clave_scri...@spl.at wrote:   
   >> can you give a review of the salient facts from DU and ACM?   
   >   
      
   Am uneasy mixture of Buddhist philosophy and Christian nonsense.   
      
      
   "The world we see merely reflects our own internal frame of   
    reference-the dominant ideas, wishes and emotions in our minds."   
      
   Rubbish.   
      
      
   >   
   >> if one looks at the anecdotes alone, it is a given that ob / projections   
   >> of consciousness exist   
      
   It is true that an experience which we categorise as an Out Of Body   
   Experience exists.  It is not a given that they represent "projections of   
   consciousness" in any meaningful way.   
      
   >>   
   >> if one even partially equates them to remote viewing, then they exist,   
   >> RV is proven, not the how, but the fact   
      
   No it isn't.  Not to scientific standard (nor, even, to legal standards,   
   which are weaker).   
      
   > The Disappearance of the Universe introduces you to this truth.   
      
   No Daryl.  It presents a whole lot of content-poor nonsense as fact.   
      
   Think for yourself, dammit.   
      
   > Listen, I'M SO SURE THAT THE TRUTH IN The Disappearance of the Universe IS   
   > SO POTENT THAT ANYONE WITH AN OPEN MIND AND SINCERELY SEARCHING FOR TRUTH   
   > WILL SEE IT, I'LL SEND *ANYONE* WHO WOULD LIKE ONE A COPY OF The   
   > Disappearance of the Universe MYSELF WITH MY OWN FUNDS. IF YOU LIKE IT,   
   > YOU CAN PAY ME THROUGH PAYPAL OR VIA MONEY ORDER THE COST OF THE BOOK. IF   
   > YOU DON'T LIKE IT, YOU CAN SIMPLY MAIL THE BOOK BACK. YOU CAN KEEP IT FOR   
   > A MONTH. YOU, DAVID, ANYONE.   
      
   Daryl, I don't need to read any more to know it's rubbish.  Neither should   
   you.   
      
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