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   John D to All   
   Re: What is everyone interested in?   
   01 May 06 11:01:08   
   
   From: JohnD@NoSpam.Com   
      
   David, Thanks for the reply...   
      
   "David Mitchell"  wrote in message   
   news:pan.2006.05.01.05.44.42.687687@edenroad.demon.co.uk...   
   > On Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:08:38 +0000, John D wrote:   
   >   
   >> No. But since I've watched "What the bleep do we know?" I've started to   
   >> wonder if this is a dream and all is not as it seems.   
   >   
   > You would have to stretch the meaning of "dream" way beyond the point at   
   > which it snapped.   
   >   
      
      
   Okay, by dream I mean that things are as they seem because that is how   
   we are conditioned to believe they are. Perhaps if we believed we could   
   physically move from one location to another using thought, we could.   
      
   > The idea that "all this is an illusion" is at least as old as buddhism;   
   > but, IMO, it doesn't really make sense as a philosophy, if only for the   
   > reason that it makes no difference.  Whether you call it a dream, or   
   > not it's completely real to those within it.   
   >   
      
   Completely real because that's what we believe...   
      
   > You could equally well assert that this is all a vast simulation in some   
   > computer (which is actually quite likely, according to some philosophers).   
   >   
   >> The idea that   
   >> nothing is solid, everything is energy, the components that make up   
   >> everything blink out of existence and then back in... where do they go?   
   >   
   > They don't.  It's true that "empty" space is full of "virtual" particles,   
   > which flicker in and out of existence before the universe really notices   
   > they are there, but your ordinary "solid" matter is just that.  ("solid"   
   > here has the traditional meaning of "being mostly empty" ;-)   
      
   Years ago, scientists found that electrons are not always where they   
   are supposed to be. Sometimes they are in the "wrong" valence,   
   sometimes they are not in this dimension. They blink out... Now,   
   they believe that the protron and neutron are not actually "solid"   
   but energy that exibit the same properties as the electrons,   
   blinking in and out of existance...   
      
   >   
   >> Is   
   >> it possible that at a given moment in time all of our energy is existing   
   >> in another dimension?   
   >   
   > Not really, if I'm reading the spirit of your question correctly.   
   >   
   >> Or in millions of other dimensions?   
   >   
   > Why do you think there _are_ millions of other dimensions?   
   > IIRC string theory says there are probably eleven.   
   >   
      
   And by dimensions I meant parallel universes. I am aware the   
   Unified String Theory.   
      
   >> Why are we not   
   >> aware of other dimensions if we coexist in them?   
   >   
   > Because they're curled up _really_ small!   
   >   
      
   David, you seem to fit the paradime that I'm questioning.   
   Can we affect this existence by realizing that we can?   
   What is the point of evolution? Where is it going?   
      
   If you haven't seen the movie, try it... then get back to me.   
      
   John D.   
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