From: stobb@usa.com   
      
   I have to compete with a spouse who snores and demands that the TV   
   remain on - with the volume at an audible level.  Is there any hope   
   for me to have an OBE?   
      
   - Chip   
      
      
      
   On 29 Jun 2006 10:29:55 -0700, "h elmer | espeance"   
    wrote:   
      
   >hi chip   
   >   
   >concentrate on one projective technique at a time for about a month,   
   >and then move on   
   >   
   >during that month, each week select up to several days where you use   
   >the interrupted sleep technique (costs nothing), and go into the   
   >technique again   
   >   
   >eventually you will have an obe - i did!   
   >   
   >all the while be reading and inundating your consciousness with   
   >information on obes and the like   
   >   
   >read seth dreams and projections, the monroe books, buhlman, bruce,   
   >peterson, etc.   
   >   
   >try the library if you're short on funds to populate your own library   
   >   
   >it helps of you can find community, at least somewhat related where   
   >people will not scoff at these superb pursuits and beliefs   
   >   
   >cheers,   
   >   
   >howie   
   >   
   >Chip Stobb wrote:   
   >> There is a LOT of material available on OBE's and how to achieve them,   
   >> and for someone like myself who is trying to sort through all of this   
   >> it gets very confusing.  It seems as if there are a lot of common   
   >> threads, but at the same time there are conflicting versions on how to   
   >> proceed.  Again, the majority of descriptions as to what the end   
   >> result (actual OBE) is like, but again - there are a multitude of   
   >> versions on how to navigate within this state.   
   >>   
   >> I am not so naive as to realize that as everyone's experience is   
   >> individual and therefore unique, that there is not a 'cookie-cutter   
   >> OBE' - but there HAS to be a clearer way to accomplish my goal.   
   >>   
   >> I am interested in finding out what form of guidance and/or assistance   
   >> has helped people in achieving OBE's.  This would include any aucio   
   >> CD's, computer CD-ROM's, books, manuals, web sites, e-books, etc. and   
   >> so forth.  Please let me know what has worked, as well as what hasn't.   
   >> Also, letting me know of any costs that have been incurred for these   
   >> materials would be greatly appreciated.   
   >>   
   >> - Chip   
   >>   
   >>   "Ignorance is bliss, and we're in Nirvana."  - C. Stobb   
      
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