XPost: alt.dreams.lucid, alt.dreams, alt.dreams.castaneda   
   From: espeance@gmail.com   
      
   the color effect to me is a signal of other dimensionality, and being in an   
   ob or astral state   
      
   i've had experiences too, where I tried to jump or fly and nothing happened,   
   the dense environment being resistant to that intent   
      
   maybe when one is on an astral or ob environment - one's thoughts don't   
   change it, one has to actually will themselves into a different place, and   
   it ends up being different than watching one's thoughts materialize a new   
   scene   
      
   in article 1162695365.211257.65540@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, saltando at   
   jumpin4jesus@gmail.com wrote on 11/4/06 9:56 pm:   
      
   > A few nights ago i had a dream where i was being chased by someone, and   
   >   
   > i was running down this cliff by the ocean which ended in a dropoff, at   
   >   
   > which point i suddenly appeared at the top again, only to run down the   
   > same path again. The colors in this dream were very drab, blue-greens,   
   > brown, and kinda dark. Now, after running down the cliff a few times, a   
   >   
   > thought occurred to me that i might be dreaming. at first i denied the   
   > idea. ( the dream was very realistic, i could feel myself running) then   
   >   
   > i got to thinking that it had to be a dream, at which point i   
   > immediately made the connection that i was having a lucid dream.   
   > i have been trying to have lucid dreams for probably about a year now,   
   > since i read about them in a newspaper article. the idea excited me   
   > quite a bit, and since then i have been planning on what i want to do.   
   > (fly, swim w/o breathing, eat chocolate, etc.)   
   > I decided first to change my surroundings into something more pleasant.   
   >   
   > nothing happened. so i decided to fly. nothing happened. so instead i   
   > jumped off of the cliff i was on into the still dark (not brilliantly   
   > colored as in most lucid dreams) waves. it was about a 12 ft. drop, and   
   >   
   > this was close enough to flying for my dream-self, and when i hit the   
   > waves, i realized i didn't have to breath, so i sat just below the   
   > waves and counted monopoly money. ( idk why...)   
   >   
   > So, why couldn't i, after realizing i was dreaming, change my   
   > environment and control the dream, except to a certain extent?   
   >   
      
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