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   From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 07:32:24 +0000, David Mitchell wrote:   
      
   > On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:20:32 -0800, h elmer | espeance wrote:   
   >   
   >> David Mitchell wrote:   
   >>> On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:45:07 -0800, h elmer | espeance wrote:   
   >>>   
   >> and i would argue that there is   
   >> just as much diverting fantasy in science, which isn't bad, but for the   
   >> fact that it isn't acknowledged   
   >   
   > I'd need a cite on that; as I think you're totally wrong.   
      
   Still waiting for that cite.   
   Seriously, it's a valid question.  Why do you think that when the evidence   
   is so strongly against (at least the naive versions of) it being true?   
      
   >> i'm not against experimentation, i just say that the results are   
   >> influenced by the beliefs of mass reality and the subjects involved,   
   >> blinding or not   
   >   
   > Do you have _any_ evidence at all for your belief that  mass-belief   
   > affects reality?   
   >   
   > Somehow I doubt it.   
      
   Still doubting it.   
      
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