XPost: alt.dreams.lucid   
   From: bluebeard@blue.net   
      
   Hello,   
   if I may jump in here:   
      
   "h elmer | espeance"  wrote in message   
   news:1165240928.907758.130350@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...   
   > David Mitchell wrote:   
   >> On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:41:08 -0800, h elmer | espeance wrote:   
      
   > becuase by out of context and overanalyzing, i mean constantly taking   
   > the position of proving to others that the ob and like phenomena are   
   > invalid, and inserting such opinions in threads where that is basically   
   > off topic   
      
   That was the question of this thread.  What is lucid dreaming and what makes   
   it an ob?   
      
   >   
   >> > let's have the experience(s) and then analyze,   
   >>   
   >> But not "overanalyse".   
   >>   
   > clarifying, look back and analyze an experience, no start with the   
   > presumption (which i see you reiterating) that there's somethibng   
   > invalid about the experience and phenomena   
      
   I do agree, some scientists can be as dogmatic as some religions, but I   
   always went by make your hypothesis and let reality be the judge (avoiding   
   contradictions).   
   Once you have had one of these though, it is very hard not to take them   
   seriously.  It feels so real at times and some environments are a lot more   
   stable than others.   
      
   anyway my 2cents.   
      
   bb   
      
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