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   From: bluebeard@blue.net   
      
   "h elmer | espeance"  wrote   
      
   > yes, dive on in, kind of been waiting - ha ha   
      
   Ok, have you ever (when ob or lucid dreaming) done any kind of meditation   
   exercise?   
      
   BTW tell me if I'm wrong, but in lucid dreaming I 'wake up' in the middle of   
   dreams, but I think I would call it an ob when I'm laying down (awake but   
   almost asleep) and get this vibration up my spine (can even control it (move   
   it up and down the spine)when I concentrate hard enough) while I'm awake and   
   then I get out (ob) it only works sometimes and at other times I'm awake and   
   still feeling the spinal vibrations but no ob.  How would you all categorize   
   that?   
      
   bb   
      
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