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   David Mitchell to All   
   Re: Hypnagogic Hallucinations (clairaudi   
   11 Jan 07 08:00:44   
   
   XPost: alt.folklore.ghost-stories, alt.dreams.lucid, bionet.neuroscience   
   XPost: alt.paranormal.channeling   
   From: david@edenroad.demon.co.uk   
      
   On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:58:20 -0800, h elmer | espeance wrote:   
      
   > i see what your saying   
   >   
   > clairaudience is certainly more than the way i'm hearing it continued   
   > to be described here   
      
   That's a bit puzzling; since you're the one who ascribed the phenomena to   
   clairaudience in the first place.   
      
   > of course a similar phenomenon, shared dreams, or esp in dreams has   
   > been proven, as well,   
      
   Not "proven", in any meaningful way; unless you have a cite for a series   
   of well designed experiments that I don't know about.   
      
   > if you're looking for something from the vantage   
   > of science, i'm not, but it's interesting to see the world creating   
   > eveidence to support their beleif systems, and i do think it has   
   > helped, will so, to unlock the doors of perception for us   
      
   Somehow, I doubt it - after all, "mystical science" has not advanced its   
   field of study one jot in thousands of years.   
      
   > to me, brain function has nothing to do with it, this is   
   > mind-conscousness beyond brain only   
   >   
   > it's more likely that our consciousness is larger than our brain   
      
   Actually, it's overwhelmingly likely that the reverse is true.   
      
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