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   "hermes"  wrote in message   
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   > Last night I dreamt I was out of my body,   
   > walking on a street with old red houses.   
   > I tried to change the colour of the houses   
   > by using my thought force but it didn't work.   
   >   
   > The point is: I know it was a dream.   
   > I can tell with no hesitation.   
   > Just as in other nights I am convinced I went   
   > out of body and I don't think it was a dream.   
   >   
   > I guess what I am trying to say is:   
   > whatever their "real" explanation,   
   > I have no difficulty in recognizing   
   > an out-of-body experience from   
   > an (ordinary) dream.   
      
   After all is said and done, I think we come down to the 'noetic' experience.   
   I know there is a big difference between 'reality' (what we perceive it to   
   be) and 'Actuality' (what the world/universe/s actually is/are).  Science   
   does help with figuring out the 'Actuality' of it, but Science only goes so   
   far (and frankly now days puts too much into the 'theories' that are   
   unproven).  As for the rest, it is up to us to 'experience' it and make our   
   own interpretations of it without actual proof (for now).  So, yes, I have   
   the same experiences and 'know' that the ob and lucid dreams are very   
   different, and as I get deeper into this I have only  myself and my own   
   reasoning ability to depend on.  Just my 2cents.   
      
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