From: owester@wanadoo.nl   
      
   "MikeH"  schreef in bericht   
   news:tPudnZ_6ZJMveHjYnZ2dnUVZ8qeknZ2d@bt.com...   
   > My first introduction to "Astral Travelling" or OOBE was through Dennis   
   > Wheatley's "Ka of Gifford Hillary" and subsequent reading of non-fiction   
   > books on the subject. This was all about 40 years ago.   
   > More recently (started last year), I have been reading about Robert   
   > Monroe's experiences in his books and about Remote Viewing, starting with   
   > David Morehouse.   
   >   
   > I was surprised to find just how different they seem to be. I would have   
   > thought that Remote Viewing would have had the same characteristics as   
   > OOBE, in that there would have been very clear sight of the place visited,   
   > but RV seems to be much less "visiting" than "sensing" a target.   
   >   
   > My question: Are OOBE's truly actual separation from the physical body and   
   > experiencing distant places, events and even times which one can remember   
   > upon return and that RV is just putting out "feelers" and only   
   > experiencing a vague idea of the target area?   
   >   
   > I have no personal experience of either, although I am planning to change   
   > that this year. I am very confused about the whole thing, to tell you the   
   > truth. MikeH   
   >   
   Yes there seems to be a diffrence..   
   I myself had several obe, look in Monroe book at the last pages, in there a   
   method to induce obe experiences, I used this method and it worked so give   
   it a try.   
   Second yes I believe and experienced that an obe is actually out of the   
   body,  your are leaving the body with the astral body and wander around.   
   I also felt several time the connecting link between astral en fysical   
   body.. its like a rope on your back and when you think of you lying to sleep   
   on you bed at home .. suddenly you are pulled back. yes a backwards   
   sensation...  the art is not to think about that and to focus on what you   
   see in front of you to stay in the obe state else you be back in a wimp !   
      
   Eldor   
      
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