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   >> "MikeH"  schreef in bericht   
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   >>> My first introduction to "Astral Travelling" or OOBE was through Dennis   
   >>> Wheatley's "Ka of Gifford Hillary" and subsequent reading of non-fiction   
   >>> books on the subject.   
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   > My question: Are OOBE's truly actual separation from the physical body and   
   > experiencing distant places, events and even times which one can remember   
   > upon return and that RV is just putting out "feelers" and only   
   > experiencing a vague idea of the target area?   
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   > I have no personal experience of either, although I am planning to change   
   > that this year. I am very confused about the whole thing, to tell you the   
   > truth. MikeH   
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   > Yes there seems to be a diffrence..   
   > I myself had several obe, look in Monroe book at the last pages, in there   
   > a method to induce obe experiences, I used this method and it worked so   
   > give it a try.   
   > Second yes I believe and experienced that an obe is actually out of the   
   > body,  your are leaving the body with the astral body and wander around. I   
   > also felt several time the connecting link between astral en fysical   
   > body.. its like a rope on your back and when you think of you lying to   
   > sleep on you bed at home .. suddenly you are pulled back. yes a backwards   
   > sensation... the art is not to think about that and to focus on what you   
   > see in front of you to stay in the obe state else you be back in a wimp !   
   >   
   > Eldor   
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   > I am just beginning those pages in the book, after what you said, I will   
   > pay particular attention to them. Thanks for the advice. I won't be a   
   > wimp!   
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   > MikeH   
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    I won't be a wimp!   
      
   Sorry thats not what I meant..  I think wrong word choice.. I meant merely   
   meant that when you not completely focussed your back in your body   
   instantaneously, direct..  ..   
      
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