From: michael.huxley5@btinternet.com   
      
    "O+Westerman"  wrote in message   
    news:45f8fe05$0$278$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl...   
      
   Yes there seems to be a diffrence.. I myself had several obe, look in Monroe   
   book at the last pages, in there a method to induce obe experiences, I used   
   this method and it worked so give it a try.   
   Second yes I believe and experienced that an obe is actually out of the   
   body,  your are leaving the body with the astral body and wander around. I   
   also felt several time the connecting link between astral en fysical body..   
   its like a rope on your back and when you think of you lying to sleep on you   
   bed at home .. suddenly you are pulled back. yes a backwards  sensation...   
   the art is not to think about that and to focus on what you see in front of   
   you to stay in the obe state else you be back in a wimp !   
   Eldor   
      
    I am just beginning those pages in the book, after what you said, I will   
   pay particular attention to them. Thanks for the advice. I won't be a  wimp!   
      
    MikeH   
      
    I won't be a wimp!   
      
    Sorry thats not what I meant..  I think wrong word choice.. I meant merely   
   meant that when you not completely focussed your back in your body   
   instantaneously, direct..  ..   
      
      
   Aah!, I see. However, I think I could be a wimp the first time I go out.   
   It's a bit more of a jump than parachuting, don't you think?   
      
   MikeH   
      
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