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   Hello,   
      
   "CupaJoe" wrote in message news:ptfOh.210$YJ4.126@newsfe23.lga...   
   > Cheers,   
   >   
   > It occurred to me that there might be some here who are   
   > experienced OBEers, while fully conscious/awake; and moving   
   > around the house. I know I've seen them standing in my mirror, &   
   > I in theirs.   
   >   
   > Well, it dawned on me today that such individuals   
   > would be able to experiment, in order to find objects,   
   > materials, or states in which the astral negs would not be able   
   > to physically withstand, would have to leave the situation. For   
   > instance, there has been talk that astrals avoid running water, certain   
   > stones, metals, magnets, etc, but has anyone here actually tested any   
   > of these things for himself, remote, and awake, to see any physical   
   > reaction? Anyone making a list, cause/reaction? Yea, that "silver   
   > bullet". I do know one thing, that the cause would have to be   
   > a permenantly fixed object. Well; any feedback would be appreciated;   
   > & contact me privately if preferred.   
   >   
   > Just trying to consider a little reverse psychology, and/or asking   
   > that spirit move, here, to such resolve. One would think that   
   > with negs, bickering and frustration, that one would get fed-up and   
   > spill the beans, give it up, spread the gospel, would even be able to   
   > take the credit (justice) for it.   
   >   
   > Anyone know what happened to usenet OBE user Peanut/Tony, from   
   > a few years back? Just that he began obe at age 12, appeared credible,   
   > respected. I know one woman who began at age 4. I'll google....   
   >   
   > Interesting stuff, please consider,   
   > myst...   
      
      
   Might want read this book, discusses elementals, I think it was written in   
   the 1600s, read the warning in the book first before starting.   
      
   Abbé N. de Montfaucon de Villars   
   "Comte de Gabalis" ISBN 0 7873 0271 6   
      
   hope this helps,   
   bb   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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