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   I know this is an old post, but I just found it...   
      
   In news:alt.out-of-body, "MikeH"  posted on   
   Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:09:37 -0000:   
      
   > I have recently had a heart attack and, due to subsequent surgery, a mild   
   > but widespread stroke. I am now 95% recovered and function at quite a high   
   > level. I have a neighbour who, too, has recently had a stroke and he is   
   > really no longer with us, to all intents and purposes. This frightens the   
   > pants off me because I don't mind losing the power of my limbs but I don't   
   > want to "lose my mind" through stroke damage.   
      
   You know... This is just my little hypothesis, but after what I experienced   
   last night with my attempt at an OBE (just allowing it to happen rather   
   than trying to make it happen) I bet these people with brain damage --   
   these people who some would say, "He's alive, but he doesn't know he's in   
   the world," are probably having OBEs pretty much constantly.  From what   
   I've learned through meditative experience and attempts at OBEs, it seems   
   like when you try to force something to happen, you're giving more energy   
   and attention to the physical body, but when you relax and allow something   
   to happen in the way it's normally meant to happen, you're basically   
   forgetting about the physical body and thereby becoming more aware of the   
   energy body.  That may be why some of these "invalids" just sit in a lump   
   on the couch, drooling, wetting their pants, and whatnot.  They are   
   probably having an OBE and don't even know anything is going on with their   
   physical body because the brain damage and trauma the body has suffered has   
   affected the connection between the body and the spirit--probably to the   
   point that if the body becomes nonfunctional, it's no great loss to the   
   spirit.  The body can't be used for much life experience, anyway.  And the   
   cognitive stability of the physical body is such that they are not "held   
   back" by the very mental controls that hold fully functional people back   
   from having the OBEs they want.   
      
   Just my little hypothesis.   
      
   Damaeus   
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