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   From: cary@afone.as.arizona.edu   
      
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   Nosterill  writes:   
   > On Sep 18, 12:39=A0pm, Therion Ware  wrote:   
   > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:19:13 -0700 (PDT), Andres64   
   > >   
   > >  wrote:   
   > > >Better start thinking of your excuses now.   
   > >   
   > > >I heard a story on BBC today about an extensive investigation into   
   > > >Near Death Experiences (NDE) and Out of Body Experiences (OBE). =A0The   
   > > >researchers are going to put images into emergency/operating rooms.   
   > > >These images are not going to be visible at ground level, but anybody   
   > > >claiming to have had an OBE and floating above their body should be   
   > > >able to tell what the image is.   
   > >   
   > > >Care to make any bets as to the excuses for why they can't?   
   > >   
   > > Sue Blackmore (of Meme machine fame, et al) did some very interesting   
   > > research into this some years ago ran a very similar set of   
   > > experiments. Oddly enough no one was ever able to accurately describe   
   > > the picture on her bedroom wall. Though many tried, using varying   
   > > methodologies...   
   >   
   > People were having near death experiences in her bedroom??? Scary   
   > woman!   
      
   Oh, Susan's a hot little number, of at least that was the   
   impression I got from reading her books describing her   
   earlier career as a psi researcher.  Left me with a   
   pronounced crush on her.   
      
   I recommend these books.  She spent many years struggling to   
   find out why she so consistently failed to get positive   
   results from her experiments, and even got negative   
   results when trying to replicate the successful experiments   
   of other resesarchers.   
      
   Bottom line: turns out she was doing better science.  But it took   
   her more than a little time, effort, and emotional struggle   
   to come to this realization.   
      
      
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