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   Richard Silk to Voter   
   Re: Aborting in the First Three Months i   
   16 Jul 18 05:34:44   
   
   From: dicksilk@gmail.com   
      
   Choosing "LIFE" for the mother while simultaneously choosing "DEATH" for the   
   child is hypocrisy.  Hypocrisy rips the soul into pieces, bit by bit.   
      
   Of course, libtards are far too stupid to comprehend this, but that's their   
   problem.   
      
   On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 2:42:56 AM UTC-5, Voter wrote:   
   > Aborting a fetus in the first three months is not only 100% moral, but it is   
   > immoral not to abort.  There is no brain in the fetus for the first three   
   months,   
   > and no ghost either.  If you read people's stories of memories of being in   
   the   
   > womb, they have real memories of being babies alive in the womb.  These same   
   > people yet have memories of reincarnation - of being a Ghost and then being   
   in the   
   > womb for less than 9 months.  Of being in the womb probably no more than five   
   > months at most.  Read their stories.  _IF_ there is no brain, and no ghost,   
   in the   
   > fetus, then not aborting is making a decision to get pregnant.  While   
   obviously   
   > the day before the baby is born, it is just two people attached, but you   
   have a   
   > right to detach your body, vs. an ethical requirement to throw someone a   
   rope.   
   > Carrying a baby who eats your body for 6 months is more onerous than throwing   
   > someone a rope.  It is perhaps closer to jumping into an icy cold river to   
   save   
   > someone.  Someone you don't want or know.  If you were on a 6 month trek   
   through   
   > the wilderness, with only 2,000 calories per day to feed you, and you met a   
   > starving person, would you starve _with_ them, eating 1,000 calories for the   
   rest   
   > of your 6 month trek through the wilderness, to emerge skinny and weak, but   
   alive?   
   > Would it be a crime not to feed them?  Carrying a baby is letting a baby eat   
   your   
   > body.  What if the woman could just pull the fetus out of her?  Would that   
   be a   
   > crime? You weren't born Siamese twins.  Your body is not theirs.  If you went   
   > through the Star Trek transporter and came out attached to someone, and they   
   were   
   > using your kidney, and their kidney didn't make the transport, and there was   
   6   
   > months to wait for a kidney, would you stay attached to this stranger for 6   
   months   
   > to let them live?  What if you both had guns, and you were like, we're going   
   to go   
   > get detached, and they were like, no, we're not, and you were like, if you   
   kill   
   > me, you'll die, but if I kill you, I'll live.  What if it was more than 6   
   months   
   > to wait for a kidney, like 9 years?  What if you were in excruciating pain   
   that   
   > could only be relieved by separation, but they would die?  What if you could   
   just   
   > pull yourself off of them, and they would die, and you would live?  Would it   
   be a   
   > crime to do so?  What if the woman could just pull the fetus out of her?    
   What if   
   > they could be detached from you, and re-attached to someone else to live?    
   Would   
   > those people be like paid surrogates, and does a fetus thus get free health   
   care,   
   > to bring all babies to life?   
   >   
   > What if aliens land and lay eggs, which crawl in our feet, or we ingest   
   > accidentally through fruit, and 3 foot by 8 inch caterpillars gestate in our   
   > stomachs, accidentally for over 3 years, until they finally crawl out our   
   mouths,   
   > and eventually turn into beautiful harmonic, human-sized butterflies who   
   teach the   
   > nations?   And these butterflies are more intelligent than humans, and wholly   
   > benevolent and helpful.  What if this accidental insemination happens   
   frequently.   
   >   
   > What if aliens land, and just generally infect everyone's legs with their   
   young.   
   >   
   > You can't abort a rapist's insemination any more than you can kill a 30 year   
   old   
   > product of rape, if you can't kill a normal fetus.  A rapist's insemination   
   is as   
   > much a living person as a normal fetus is.  And yet you have a right to   
   separate   
   > your body so far as I've suggested.   
   >   
   > What if a Siamese twin kills?  Do they both go to prison?  Has this ever   
   happened?   
   >   Is the law not bunk, and is not self defense the solution?  Should we not   
   be   
   > letting the chips fall where they may, and doing away with the law, to   
   replace it   
   > with an benevolent and helpful advocate which recognizes and promotes the   
   humanity   
   > in all humankind?   
   >   
   > _IF_ there is no brain, and no ghost, in the fetus, then not aborting is   
   making a   
   > decision to get pregnant.  There's no person living in you for at least the   
   first   
   > three months.  If you don't abort, it's just like you decided to get   
   pregnant.  If   
   > a sperm and an egg were sitting next to each other in a petri dish, and then   
   the   
   > sperm impregnated the egg, would you believe, that was a human with a brain   
   and a   
   > ghost?  Do you believe that you came out of a zygote?  Are you a materialist,   
   > atheist, deathist who believes only in the material world?  There is life   
   after   
   > death.  There is life before life.  The ghost enters the fetus at various   
   times in   
   > its development.  This begs the question, could a baby be born without a   
   ghost;   
   > especially in Africa, where there are tons and tons of babies, and no one   
   would   
   > want to be born in Africa.  But I imagine it would be born stillborn.   
   >   
   > Unplanned childbirth is the scourge of nations.  Unplanned childbirth is the   
   cause   
   > of overpopulation.  There are too many people for the property.  There is not   
   > enough capital for the labor.  Rather than a Holocaust as was caused by the   
   Great   
   > Depression, the solution is to stop unplanned pregnancies.  The human race   
   is an   
   > animal like any other, that can kill off its habitat and resultingly die en   
   masse.   
   >   Like a Kuala Bear group that needs to be culled, but the solution is to   
   stop   
   > unplanned pregnancy.   37% of American society is unplanned.  Babies born to   
   > mother's who didn't plan them certainly face a life of likely greater   
   poverty and   
   > hardship.  Drug abusers certainly don't practice abstinence if they are   
   reckless   
   > enough to abuse drugs.  People using needles, and injecting Heroin, get   
   pregnant   
   > at 19.  The last thing they need is a baby.  The first thing they need is an   
   > abortion.  This is not theoretical.  This is solid fact.  Only 40% of all   
   > unplanned pregnancies, or nearly 1 million are happily terminated in   
   abortion.   
   > Sadly, 60% of all unplanned pregnancies or 1.5 million, are not.  1.5   
   million out   
   > of 4 million babies born per year are unplanned.  This is 37%.  This is   
   > outrageous.  This is certainly going to have a negative socio-economic   
   effect on   
   > our so-called civilization.  Half the unplanned pregnancies and childbirths,   
      
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