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"Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA"
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> Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO
> Debunkers in Massive
> Retreat.
>
> Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO
> Debunkers in Retreat.
>
> Brian, Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself
> and from all the
> honest
> UFO researchers in your efforts to document and
> illuminate the well
> proven facts. The UFO community would also like to
> extend our
> gratitude for the work you have done in bringing new
> ideas and solid
> information to light. We are in your debt. Also, I
> would like to
> encourage you to keep up your investigations, for
> they are highly
> educational and written in a scholarly manner.
>
> Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans
> posing as UFO
> debunkers.
> At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant
> dupes and fools,
> "useless idiots" if you will, at worst, they are
> intelligence
> community,
> low-level assets who can't make it in the real world.
> It is a pity they spend so much effort in the
> distortion and
> vandalism of good science. May history view them in
> higher regard
> than I do,
> they'll need it.
>
> The President himself has called debunkers "useless
> eaters" and "life
> unworthy of life." Truer words have never been
> spoken. :)
>
> From time to time, it is important for all of us to
> let you know the
> outstanding contributions you are making in the field
> and what a
> delight and
> inspiration it is to have you around. With your
> valuable assistance,
> I'm sure "our" side will win. The truth always does!
>
> Again, let me declare your efforts were remarkable in
> digging up the
> Ames and Sandia connections. That was impressive,
> and, of course,
> highly indicative of the lengths 'they' are going to
> in trying to
> control and
> cover-up the ET/Alien information. Bravo!
>
> BRIAN ZEILER RESPONDS:
>
>
> Brian Zeiler wrote on Oct.
> 19, 1996:
> Art Wholeflaffer wrote:
>
>> Brian, Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself
>> and from all the honest
>> UFO researchers in your efforts to document and
>> illuminate the well
>> proven facts.
>
> You're welcome, and thank you. And let's also not
> forget that I am
> too prone to
> getting suckered into flame wars with the self-styled
> "skeptics", and
> this noise
> tends to overshadow the very high quality posts from
> David Rudiak, J.
> Walter,
> Bill Peterson, and a few others whose contributions
> are appreciated.
>
>> Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans
>> posing as UFO debunkers.
>> At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant
>> dupes and fools,
>> useless "idiots" if you will, at worst, they are
>> intelligence community,
>> low-level assets who can't make it in the real
>> world.
>
> Sadly, the vast majority appear to be all too
> sincere. Rogers, Fun,
> McKnight
> (where's he been?), etc., are nothing more than
> typical dime-a-dozen
> skeptics who
> lease their opinions from their masters and overlords
> at CSICOP in a
> rather
> repugnant display of intellectual incompetence and
> lack of capacity
> for
> independent reasoning. Of course, that's due in no
> small part to the
> intellectual prostitution of Menzel and Sagan and
> other opinion
> leaders who duped
> generations of scientists into absorbing a culture of
> UFO ridicule and
> rejection
> with absolutely no logical basis whatsoever --
> nothing but silly
> debunkeries that
> invariably collapse under scrutiny along with an
> idiot mantra about
> "extraordinariness" which presumes the inductive
> powers of probability
> estimation
> in the midst of insufficient data.
>
> It's absolutely staggering to see scientific
> leadership deteriorate to
> such a
> level of stagnancy and ambivalence in research
> effort, coupled with a
> total lack
> of exposure to the evidence *and* a blinding,
> foaming, raging need to
> disbelieve
> and debunk with the urgent zeal of a fanatical
> religious nut. That's
> the
> scientific treatment of the UFO evidence, all spawned
> by their blind
> devotion to
> their overlords and masters like Sagan and Menzel.
> Truly
> unbelievable.
>
>> It is a pity they spend so much effort in the
>> distortion and vandalism of good science. May
>> history view
>> them in higher regard than I do, they'll need it.
>
> History will view them as fools -- relentless
> defenders of dogma,
> blind fools who
> crippled scientific progress in the name of,
> ironically, "science",
> which they
> fallaciously equate with skepticism, their
> need-to-disbelieve
> religion. History
> will show that they undermined that which they sought
> to defend --
> good science.
>
> It's truly sad to see human progress and potential
> reflected so feebly
> and
> pathetically in the scientific community's willful
> blindness to this
> discovery,
> especially in this age of such revolutionary
> technological progress.
> The failure
> of science in this aspect -- arguably the biggest
> aspect, the greatest
> discovery of all time -- will long be remembered as
> the pox on a
> century
> otherwise full of conquest and glory, the grandest
> 100 years of
> science that ever
> happened.
>
> The US government will release the goods, but
> probably not for a long
> time. When
> they do, the world will instantly view the "UFO
> skeptics" as a group
> of
> irrational zealots who, rather unfortunately,
> happened to be in
> positions of
> public influence.
>
> In the meantime, all we can do is observe the UFO
> skeptics and, with a
> necessary
> sense of humor that enables us to laugh raucously at
> their silly
> logic, watch
> them struggle to deny, disbelieve, and debunk. Hey,
> that'll be the
> three D's of
> modern science's treatment of the UFO evidence...
>
> --
> Brian Zeiler
I thought you knew. Brian Zeiler was arrested in Hong
Kong years ago and apparently perished in jail.
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