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   On 1/14/2012 2:58 AM, Sir Arthur CB Wholeflaffers ASA wrote:   
   > Abduction "Checklist"//Are Aliens Negative From Our Point-Of View?   
      
      
      
      
   Your request to make *another* list is, of course, denied.   
      
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   BDUCTION "CHECKLIST"  by Karla Turner   
   >   
   >       If "abduction" reports can be believed--and there is no reason to   
   > doubt the honesty of the reporters--the abduction phenomenon   
   > includes the following details:   
   >   
   > 1) Aliens can alter our perception of our surroundings.   
   >   
   > 2) Aliens can control what we think we see. They can appear to   
   > us in any number of guises, and shapes.   
   >   
   > 3) Aliens can take us--our consciousness--out of our physical   
   > bodies, disable our control of our bodies, install one of their own   
   > entities, and use our bodies as vehicles for their own activities   
   > before returning our consciousness to our bodies.   
   >   
   > 4) Aliens can be present with us in an invisible state and can   
   > make themselves only partially visible.   
   >   
   > 5) Abductees receive marks on their bodies other than the   
   > well-known scoops and straight-line scars.  These other marks include   
   > single punctures, multiple punctures, large bruises, three- and   
   > four-fingered claw marks, and triangles of every possible sort.   
   >   
   > 6) Females abductees often suffer serious gynecological   
   > problems after their alien encounters, and sometimes these problems   
   > lead to cysts, tumors, cancer of the breasts and uterus, and to   
   > hysterectomies.   
   >   
   > 7) Aliens take body fluids from our necks, spines, blood   
   > veins, joints such as knees and wrists, and other places.  They also   
   > inject unknown fluids into various parts of our bodies.   
   >   
   > 8) A surprising number of abductees suffer from serious   
   > illnesses they didn't have before their encounters.  These have led   
   > to surgery, debilitation, and even death from causes the doctors   
   > can't identify.   
   >   
   > 9) Some abductees experience a degeneration of their mental,   
   > social, and spiritual well-being.  Excessive behavior frequently   
   > erupts, such as drug abuse, alcoholism, overeating, and promiscuity.   
   > Strange obsessions develop and cause the disruption of normal life   
   > and the destruction of personal relationships.   
   >   
   > 10) Aliens show a great interest in adult sexuality, child   
   > sexuality, and in inflicting physical pain on abductees.   
   >   
   > 11) Abductees recall being instructed and trained by aliens.   
   > This training may be in the form of verbal or telepathic lessons,   
   > slide shows, or actual hands-on instruction in the operation of alien   
   > technology.   
   >   
   > 12) Abductees report being taken to facilities in which they   
   > encounter not only aliens but also normal-looking humans, sometimes   
   > in military uniforms, working with the alien captors.   
   >   
   > 13) Abductees often encounter more than one sort of alien   
   > during an experience, not just the grays.  Every possible combination   
   > of gray, reptoid, insectoid, blond, and widow's peak have been seen   
   > during single abductions, aboard the same craft or in the same   
   > facility.   
   >   
   > 14) Abductees--"virgin" cases--report being taken to   
   > underground facilities where they see grotesque hybrid creatures,   
   > nurseries of hybrid humanoid fetuses, and vats of colored liquid   
   > filled with parts of human bodies.   
   >   
   > 15) Abductees report seeing other humans in these facilities being   
   > drained of blood, being mutilated, flayed, and dismembered, and   
   > stacked, lifeless like cords of wood. Some abductees have been   
   > threatened that they, too, will end up in this condition if they   
   > don't co-operate with their alien captors.   
   >   
   > 16) Aliens come into homes and temorary remove young children, leaving   
   > their distraught parents paralyzed and helpless. In cases where a   
   > parent has been able to protest, the aliens insist that "The   
   > children belong to us."   
   >   
   > 17) Aliens have forced ther human abductees to have sexual intercourse   
   > with aliens and even with other abductees while groups of aliens   
   > observe these performances. In such encounters, the aliens have   
   > sometimes disguised themselves in order to gain the cooperation of   
   > the abductee, appearing in such forms as Jesus, the Pope, certain   
   > celebrities, and even the dead spouses of the abductees.   
   >   
   > 18) Aliens perform extremely painful experiments or procedures   
   > on abductees, saying that these acts are necessary but give no   
   > explanation why.....Painful genital and anal probes are   
   > performed, on children as well as adults.   
   >   
   > 19) Aliens make predictions of an imminent period of global chaos and   
   > destruction. They say that a certain number of humans...will be   
   > "rescued" from the planet in order to continue the species, either   
   > on another planet or back on earth after the destruction is over.   
   > Many abductees report they don't believe their alien captors and   
   > foresee instead a much more sinister use of the "rescued" humans.   
   >   
   >   "In every instance from this list, there are multiple reports from   
   > unrelated cases, confirming that such bizzarre details are not the   
   > product   
   > of a single deranged mind. These details are convincing evidence that,   
   > contrary to the claims of many UFO researchers, the abduction   
   > experience   
   > isn't limited to uniform pattern of events. This phenomenon simply   
   > can't   
   > be explained in terms of cross- breeding experiments or scientific   
   > research into the human physiology....... Before we allow ourselves to   
   > believe in the benevolence of the alien interaction , we should ask,   
   > do   
   > enlightened beings need to use the cover of night to perform good   
   > deeds?   
   > Do they need to paralyze us and render us helpless to resist? Do   
   > angels   
   > need to steal our fetuses? Do they need to manipulate our children's   
   > genitals and probe our rectums? Are fear, pain, and deception   
   > consistent   
   > with high spiritual motives?" ......Dr. Karla Turner.   
   >   
   > UFO Universe, Vol. 3 No. 1 Spring 1993.   
   > Copyright 1993 by Charlotte Magazine Corp., Inc.   
   > ----------------------------------------------------------   
   > The following is from Contact Forum, Vol. 3 No. 3  May/June 1995   
   >   
   > CF: Most of what you have said about these aliens is pretty negative   
   > from our point of view.  Do you know of anything positive about the   
   > aliens?   
   >   
   > Karla Turner: Not about the abducting ones.  I do think there are   
   > intelligent forces that can contact and inform us--perhaps to help   
   > us help ourselves.  Obviously, I don't think aliens on the "good side"   
   > are coming  down here, standing in front of our bedrooms at night   
      
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