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   Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive   
   Retreat.   
      
   Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Retreat.   
      
   Brian, Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all the   
   honest   
   UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the well   
   proven facts. The UFO community would also like to extend our   
   gratitude for the work you have done in bringing new ideas and solid   
   information to light. We are in your debt. Also, I would like to   
   encourage you to keep up your investigations, for they are highly   
   educational and written in a scholarly manner.   
      
   Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO   
   debunkers.   
   At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and fools,   
   "useless idiots" if you will, at worst, they are intelligence   
   community,   
   low-level assets who can't make it in the real world.   
   It is a pity they spend so much effort in the distortion and   
   vandalism of good science. May history view them in higher regard   
   than I do,   
   they'll need it.   
      
   From time to time, it is important for all of us to let you know the   
   outstanding contributions you are making in the field and what a   
   delight and   
   inspiration it is to have you around. With your valuable assistance,   
   I'm sure "our" side will win. The truth always does!   
      
   Again, let me declare your efforts were remarkable in digging up the   
   Ames and Sandia connections. That was impressive, and, of course,   
   highly indicative of the lengths 'they' are going to in trying to   
   control and   
   cover-up the ET/Alien information. Bravo!   
      
   BRIAN ZEILER RESPONDS:   
      
      
   Brian Zeiler wrote on Oct. 19, 1996:   
   Art Wholeflaffer wrote:   
      
   > Brian, Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all the honest   
   > UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the well   
   > proven facts.   
      
   You're welcome, and thank you. And let's also not forget that I am   
   too prone to   
   getting suckered into flame wars with the self-styled "skeptics", and   
   this noise   
   tends to overshadow the very high quality posts from David Rudiak, J.   
   Walter,   
   Bill Peterson, and a few others whose contributions are appreciated.   
      
   > Please don't be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO debunkers.   
   > At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and fools,   
   > useless "idiots" if you will, at worst, they are intelligence community,   
   > low-level assets who can't make it in the real world.   
      
   Sadly, the vast majority appear to be all too sincere. Rogers, Fun,   
   McKnight   
   (where's he been?), etc., are nothing more than typical dime-a-dozen   
   skeptics who   
   lease their opinions from their masters and overlords at CSICOP in a   
   rather   
   repugnant display of intellectual incompetence and lack of capacity   
   for   
   independent reasoning. Of course, that's due in no small part to the   
   intellectual prostitution of Menzel and Sagan and other opinion   
   leaders who duped   
   generations of scientists into absorbing a culture of UFO ridicule and   
   rejection   
   with absolutely no logical basis whatsoever -- nothing but silly   
   debunkeries that   
   invariably collapse under scrutiny along with an idiot mantra about   
   "extraordinariness" which presumes the inductive powers of probability   
   estimation   
   in the midst of insufficient data.   
      
   It's absolutely staggering to see scientific leadership deteriorate to   
   such a   
   level of stagnancy and ambivalence in research effort, coupled with a   
   total lack   
   of exposure to the evidence *and* a blinding, foaming, raging need to   
   disbelieve   
   and debunk with the urgent zeal of a fanatical religious nut. That's   
   the   
   scientific treatment of the UFO evidence, all spawned by their blind   
   devotion to   
   their overlords and masters like Sagan and Menzel. Truly   
   unbelievable.   
      
   > It is a pity they spend so much effort in the   
   > distortion and vandalism of good science. May history view   
   > them in higher regard than I do, they'll need it.   
      
   History will view them as fools -- relentless defenders of dogma,   
   blind fools who   
   crippled scientific progress in the name of, ironically, "science",   
   which they   
   fallaciously equate with skepticism, their need-to-disbelieve   
   religion. History   
   will show that they undermined that which they sought to defend --   
   good science.   
      
   It's truly sad to see human progress and potential reflected so feebly   
   and   
   pathetically in the scientific community's willful blindness to this   
   discovery,   
   especially in this age of such revolutionary technological progress.   
   The failure   
   of science in this aspect -- arguably the biggest aspect, the greatest   
   discovery of all time -- will long be remembered as the pox on a   
   century   
   otherwise full of conquest and glory, the grandest 100 years of   
   science that ever   
   happened.   
      
   The US government will release the goods, but probably not for a long   
   time. When   
   they do, the world will instantly view the "UFO skeptics" as a group   
   of   
   irrational zealots who, rather unfortunately, happened to be in   
   positions of   
   public influence.   
      
   In the meantime, all we can do is observe the UFO skeptics and, with a   
   necessary   
   sense of humor that enables us to laugh raucously at their silly   
   logic, watch   
   them struggle to deny, disbelieve, and debunk. Hey, that'll be the   
   three D's of   
   modern science's treatment of the UFO evidence...   
      
   --   
   Brian Zeiler   
      
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