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From: garymatalucci@gmail.com
On Dec 27, 9:03 am, Bob Casanova wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:13:56 -0800 (PST), the following
> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by "Sir Arthur C.B.E.
> Wholeflaffers A.S.A." :
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> >On Dec 24, 9:58 am, Bob Casanova wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:15:18 +1300, the following appeared
> >> in sci.skeptic, posted by george152 :
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> >> >On 24/12/12 06:09, Bob Casanova wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 01:42:58 -0800 (PST), the following
> >> >> appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Sir Arthur CB
> >> >> Wholeflaffers ASA :
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> >> >>> Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive
> >> >>> Retreat.
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> >> >>> Brian Zeiler, You're Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Retreat.
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> >> >> You're stuttering, Artie/Gary. The meds again?
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> >> >Zeller ran away years ago and now is in a position where his historical
> >> >UFO nonsense could cost him dear
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> >> I have no idea who Zeiler/Zeller is, and I suspect that puts
> >> me under no handicap at all. I just like to poke Artie/Gary
> >> when he spouts his usual idiocies.
> >For some reason unbeknownst to the vast majority of honest
> >researchers I continue to spout my idiocies.
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> There; fixed it for you. You're welcome.
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> And we all know the reason, Artie/Gary.
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> Bob C.
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> "Evidence confirming an observation is
> evidence that the observation is wrong."
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> - McNameless
Casanobrain, you MUST follow the General's orders. You are to
surrender your cult to the proper authorities.
Here it is:
Brian Zeiler, You’re Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Massive
Retreat.
Brian Zeiler, You’re Doing A Great Service/ UFO Debunkers in Retreat.
Brian, Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all the
honest UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the
well proven facts. The UFO community would also like to extend our
gratitude for the work you have done in bringing new ideas and solid
information to light. We are in your debt. Also, I would like to
encourage you to keep up your investigations, for they are highly
educational and written in a scholarly manner.
Please don’t be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO
debunkers. At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and
fools, “useless idiots” if you will, at worst, they are intelligence
community, low-level assets who can’t make it in the real world. It
is a pity they spend so much effort in the distortion and vandalism of
good science. May history view them in higher regard than I do,
they’ll need it.
From time to time, it is important for all of us to let you know the
outstanding contributions you are making in the field and what a
delight and inspiration it is to have you around. With your valuable
assistance, I’m sure “our” side will win. The truth always does!
Again, let me declare your efforts were remarkable in digging up the
Ames and Sandia connections. That was impressive, and, of course,
highly indicative of the lengths ‘they’ are going to in trying to
control and cover-up the ET/Alien information. Bravo!
BRIAN ZEILER RESPONDS:
Brian Zeiler wrote on Oct. 19, 1996:
Art Wholeflaffer wrote:
• Brian, Let me extend a hearty thank-you from myself and from all
the honest
• UFO researchers in your efforts to document and illuminate the well
• proven facts.
You’re welcome, and thank you. And let’s also not forget that I am
too prone to getting suckered into flame wars with the self-styled
“skeptics”, and this noise tends to overshadow the very high quality
posts from David Rudiak, J. Walter, Bill Peterson, and a few others
whose contributions are appreciated.
• Please don’t be put off by those luckless charlatans posing as UFO
debunkers.
• At best, we can say these impostors are ignorant dupes and fools,
• useless “idiots” if you will, at worst, they are intelligence
community,
• low-level assets who can’t make it in the real world.
Sadly, the vast majority appear to be all too sincere. Rogers, Fun,
McKnight (where’s he been?), etc., are nothing more than typical dime-
a-dozen skeptics who lease their opinions from their masters and
overlords at CSICOP in a rather repugnant display of intellectual
incompetence and lack of capacity for independent reasoning. Of
course, that’s due in no small part to the intellectual prostitution
of Menzel and Sagan and other opinion leaders who duped generations of
scientists into absorbing a culture of UFO ridicule and rejection with
absolutely no logical basis whatsoever—nothing but silly debunkeries
that invariably collapse under scrutiny along with an idiot mantra
about “extraordinariness” which presumes the inductive powers of
probability estimation in the midst of insufficient data.
It’s absolutely staggering to see scientific leadership deteriorate to
such a level of stagnancy and ambivalence in research effort, coupled
with a total lack of exposure to the evidence and a blinding, foaming,
raging need to disbelieve and debunk with the urgent zeal of a
fanatical religious nut. That’s the scientific treatment of the UFO
evidence, all spawned by their blind devotion to their overlords and
masters like Sagan and Menzel. Truly unbelievable.
• It is a pity they spend so much effort in the
• distortion and vandalism of good science. May history view
• them in higher regard than I do, they’ll need it.
History will view them as fools—relentless defenders of dogma, blind
fools who crippled scientific progress in the name of, ironically,
“science”, which they fallaciously equate with skepticism, their need-
to-disbelieve religion. History will show that they undermined that
which they sought to defend—good science.
It’s truly sad to see human progress and potential reflected so feebly
and pathetically in the scientific community’s willful blindness to
this discovery, especially in this age of such revolutionary
technological progress. The failure of science in this aspect—
arguably the biggest aspect, the greatest discovery of all time—will
long be remembered as the pox on a century otherwise full of conquest
and glory, the grandest 100 years of science that ever happened.
The US government will release the goods, but probably not for a long
time. When they do, the world will instantly view the “UFO skeptics”
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