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|    Atomic Weapons Were Not Needed to End th    |
|    11 Jan 13 19:53:23    |
      f5fe67bf       XPost: alt.alien.visitors, alt.alien.research, sci.skeptic       XPost: alt.conspiracy       From: garymatalucci@gmail.com              Atomic Weapons Were Not Needed to End the War or Save Lives              Like all Americans, I was taught that the U.S. dropped nuclear bombs       on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in order to end WWII and save both American       and Japanese lives. But most of the top American military officials at       the time said otherwise.              The U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey group, assigned by President Truman       to study the air attacks on Japan, produced a report in July of 1946       that concluded (52-56): Based on a detailed investigation of all the       facts and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders       involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31       December 1945 and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan       would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped,       even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had       been planned or contemplated. General (and later president) Dwight       Eisenhower – then Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces, and the       officer who created most of America’s WWII military plans for Europe       and Japan – said: The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t       necessary to hit them with that awful thing.              Newsweek, 11/11/63, Ike on Ike Eisenhower also noted (pg. 380): In       [July] 1945… Secretary of War Stimson, visiting my headquarters in       Germany, informed me that our government was preparing to drop an       atomic bomb on Japan. I was one of those who felt that there were a       number of cogent reasons to question the wisdom of such an act. …the       Secretary, upon giving me the news of the successful bomb test in New       Mexico, and of the plan for using it, asked for my reaction,       apparently expecting a vigorous assent.              During his recitation of the relevant facts, I had been conscious of a       feeling of depression and so I voiced to him my grave misgivings,       first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and       that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly       because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion       by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer       mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that       Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a       minimum loss of ‘face’. The Secretary was deeply perturbed by my       attitude….              Admiral William Leahy – the highest ranking member of the U.S.       military from 1942 until retiring in 1949, who was the first de facto       Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and who was at the center of       all major American military decisions in World War II – wrote (pg.       441):              It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima       and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan.       The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of       the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with       conventional weapons.              The lethal possibilities of atomic warfare in the future are       frightening. My own feeling was that in being the first to use it, we       had adopted an ethical standard common to the barbarians of the Dark       Ages. I was not taught to make war in that fashion, and wars cannot be       won by destroying women and children.              General Douglas MacArthur agreed (pg. 65, 70-71): MacArthur’s views       about the decision to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki       were starkly different from what the general public supposed …. When I       asked General MacArthur about the decision to drop the bomb, I was       surprised to learn he had not even been consulted. What, I asked,       would his advice have been? He replied that he saw no military       justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended       weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later       did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor.              Moreover (pg. 512): The Potsdam declaration in July, demand[ed] that       Japan surrender unconditionally or face ‘prompt and utter       destruction.’ MacArthur was appalled. He knew that the Japanese would       never renounce their emperor, and that without him an orderly       transition to peace would be impossible anyhow, because his people       would never submit to Allied occupation unless he ordered it.       Ironically, when the surrender did come, it was conditional, and the       condition was a continuation of the imperial reign. Had the General’s       advice been followed, the resort to atomic weapons at Hiroshima and       Nagasaki might have been unnecessary.              Similarly, Assistant Secretary of War John McLoy noted (pg. 500): I       have always felt that if, in our ultimatum to the Japanese government       issued from Potsdam [in July 1945], we had referred to the retention       of the emperor as a constitutional monarch and had made some reference       to the reasonable accessibility of raw materials to the future       Japanese government, it would have been accepted. Indeed, I believe       that even in the form it was delivered, there was some disposition on       the part of the Japanese to give it favorable consideration. When the       war was over I arrived at this conclusion after talking with a number       of Japanese officials who had been closely associated with the       decision of the then Japanese government, to reject the ultimatum, as       it was presented. I believe we missed the opportunity of effecting a       Japanese surrender, completely satisfactory to us, without the       necessity of dropping the bombs.              Under Secretary of the Navy Ralph Bird said: I think that the Japanese       were ready for peace, and they already had approached the Russians       and, I think, the Swiss. And that suggestion of [giving] a warning [of       the atomic bomb] was a face-saving proposition for them, and one that       they could have readily accepted.       ***       In my opinion, the Japanese war was really won before we ever used the       atom bomb. Thus, it wouldn’t have been necessary for us to disclose       our nuclear position and stimulate the Russians to develop the same       thing much more rapidly than they would have if we had not dropped the       bomb.       War Was Really Won Before We Used A-Bomb, U.S. News and World Report,       8/15/60, pg. 73-75.              He also noted (pg. 144-145, 324): It definitely seemed to me that the       Japanese were becoming weaker and weaker. They were surrounded by the       Navy. They couldn’t get any imports and they couldn’t export anything.       Naturally, as time went on and the war developed in our favor it was       quite logical to hope and expect that with the proper kind of a              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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