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   From: garymatalucci@gmail.com   
      
   Melinda Leslie: A MILAB Speaks by Vicki Ecker   
   UFO Magazine: Can you tell us about your abduction experiences?   
   Melinda Leslie: What caused me to investigate military involvement in   
   abductions were the experiences I had with it myself. In 1990, working   
   with a hypnotherapist, I realized I had gone through several separate   
   alien abduction incidents periodically throughout my life, all typical   
   of the “standard” abduction experience. In July of 1991, I was with   
   two friends, and we were driving out to Lancaster, California. We had   
   been talking when some electrical equipment in the car, a flashlight   
   and radio, began malfunctioning. We then thought we had a UFO   
   sighting, and began arguing about what we had seen. We pulled off the   
   road a little while later and stopped at a 7-11. It was then we   
   realized that it was much later in the evening then we had thought. We   
   had experienced about two hours of missing time. We had a lot of   
   telltale signs suggesting an experience. Our behavior changed, we were   
   incredibly thirsty, easily agitated and quick to argue.   
   The three of us each had some conscious memory of the experience.   
   Also, we were each independently regressed. Something came up during   
   that time—that we were examined by aliens, and that military   
   personnel, one in particular, wearing what looked like a naval   
   uniform, was involved and seemed to be monitoring the procedure. All   
   three of us remembered seeing him. The therapist, who regressed each   
   of us independently, said that this seemed to be a major event for us,   
   seeing this person. It was so out of place, so startling. He wasn’t   
   another abductee, he was just there, watching.   
   In 1993, I thought I had been abducted from my home. Again, all the   
   standard signs pointed to this: I woke up earlier than usual,   
   agitated.   
   I examined myself and found bruises on my body.  With conscious memory   
   and a number of regressions, it seems that I was taken by both aliens   
   and military personnel, but mostly it was a military experience,   
   although I was brought back by aliens.  How is this going to come out   
   in an interview and not sound completely crazy to someone reading it?   
   I really want to emphasize evidence.  It was the evidence I found in   
   relationship to my own military abduction experiences that convinced   
   me that these experiences did, in fact, happen to me.  There is an   
   abundance of evidence in the cases I’ve researched.  To me, the   
   evidence for harassment, surveillance and re-abductions is the most   
   important part.  If we are not talking about the evidence, then we are   
   just telling more experiencer stories, when we should be talking about   
   the evidence.   
   This whole military involvement scenario with the harassment of alien   
   abductees is such strong evidence in support of the reality of alien   
   abduction. If there is no such thing as alien abductions, then why is   
   all of this happening to people who have done nothing in their lives   
   to warrant this kind of interest by the military, other than that they   
   claim to have experienced an alien abduction? This suggests that there   
   must be something very important about abductions and abductees, why   
   all the time, energy, and money being spent?   
   UFO: What do you consider the best evidence for the military angle?   
   ML: As for evidence of military involvement, for example, one abductee   
   I know has nearly 600 photos of helicopter harassment she’s suffered.   
   These helicopters have forward looking infrared, ball cameras and   
   radar dishes on them, and are hovering over her home, illegally low.   
   There are physical signs like bruises and marks on the body after an   
   experience. There are witnesses to the harassment and surveillance and   
   witnesses to the re-abductions. There is also mail tampering, phone   
   interruptions, break-ins to people) homes, being followed and outright   
   direct confrontations. I, too, have had many of these.   
   UFO: The story and memories e you and other abductees have is one   
   thing, but when it comes to evidence, that’s what makes more people   
   stand up and take notice.   
   ML: I’ve tried to determine if what I went through is real. I have   
   memories of medical procedures done to me by the military,   
   gynecological in nature, as part of these experiences. I’ve found   
   pictures in safety equipment catalogs at a previous place of work that   
   matched equipment and uniforms I saw during my experience. My first   
   conscious memories of this experience, in fact, were not of aliens,   
   but of humans. I thought this was crazy. Was this something the aliens   
   wanted me to think? Yet I was seeing an environment that was   
   completely human. I saw one uniformed man involved, carrying a kind of   
   gun over his shoulder, which I later described and drew a picture of   
   for a friend who was involved in Special Forces. He told me never to   
   draw a picture of it again. He said I drew something that really   
   exists, that’s still classified.   
   I also remember seeing a clean room, HAZMAT (hazardous material)-type   
   of environment with plastic tenting material draping the room I was   
   in. Everything in the room was covered with this opaque material,   
   which had an orange-brown tint.   
   In 1998 I saw another catalog sitting on a coffee table at a home, had   
   an instantly negative reaction to the cover of it, and did a double-   
   take. It was a picture of some respirators and a guy with a clean suit   
   walking through a tented area covered with exactly the orange-brown   
   plastic material I saw in my experience five years before. This I’m   
   discovering all these years later and I’m going, “Oh, my God!” I had   
   never seen this orange-tinted draping before in any of the catalogs. I   
   called the catalog company and asked if they knew anything about this   
   kind of material and they did not; the photo had been provided to them   
   [but they had no records].  I researched and found out that the   
   material contained either an anti-static or anti-bacterial coating,   
   most likely. In the context of my “surgical” experience, the   
   antibacterial use made sense.   
   UFO: What kind of gynecological procedure did you undergo?   
   ML: I was speaking once to a MUFON group in Minnesota describing my   
   experiences, and someone from the audience came up to me afterward. He   
   was a surgeon, who offered to help me understand what I had gone   
   through. He asked some very specific questions, as if he was going   
   somewhere, but I didn’t know where. One question was, had I ever had   
      
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