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   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/10/25 2:21 PM, jojo wrote:   
      
   > those were the classic 7 wonders right?   
      
   Yes. And they are regarded as factual history but how do we   
   really know? What separates history for mythology?   
      
   Like I insists that the Trojan War is a myth. One thing that   
   sets it apart from, say, the Lighthouse of Alexandria is   
   the fact that it shares similarity with a more ancient tale   
   that lacks the involvement of gods and magic.   
      
   Oh. So that's two things:  The inclusion of the supernatural   
   in the story AND the similarity to more ancient events.   
      
   Wait. Three things:  There's only one source for the Troy   
   myth.   
      
   The Lighthouse of Alexandria is known from many sources and   
   is recorded into the middle ages!   
      
   So, I can say that the Lighthouse of Alexandria is history   
   while the Trojan War is myth.   
      
   > i think we should have a rhodes   
   > type statue built where ships sail beneath its crotch.   
      
   That much is myth.   
      
   It's easy for us to believe a statue was real, even a very   
   large statue, but virtually none of the depictions can be   
   real.   
      
   The statues depicted could never have existed.   
      
   So the Colossus of Rhodes is midway between a fairytale   
   and history in that we have zero impulse to doubt that a   
   statue existed yet virtually everything we see of it is   
   mythological.   
      
   > i think bravos was inspired rhodes. free city of bravos, there will be a   
   > space colony named bravos some day.   
      
   Yes, a futuristic Schliemann will make it "Real" the same   
   way that our Schliemann made Troy "Real."   
      
      
      
      
      
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