XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, sci.logic   
   From: jtem01@gmail.com   
      
   On 7/21/25 9:39 PM, JTEM wrote:   
      
   > https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/37931631449   
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   > https://jtem.tumblr.com/post/7738633982   
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   > Hitler? He would never have been in that bunker. He was   
   > 18km away in the Maybach bunker, if he was even still   
   > alive...   
      
   Over the years, I've become more & more convinced that   
   Hitler was killed or rendered incapable of command in   
   the July Plot bombing at the Wolf's Lair.   
      
   It's not so far fetched.   
      
   The official account of Hitler's death is garbage. It's   
   rubbish. Apart from the fact that the British are always   
   fiercely protective of their aristocracy, and the original   
   author of the idiotic official version was a British   
   noble, I can't see any motive for this fraud. But it's a   
   fraud.   
      
   Ironically?  EVERYBODY had a motive for perpetuating the   
   fraud....   
      
   The Nazi leaders needed Hitler in power. There was already   
   a coup attempt WITH Hitler, imagine if the German officer   
   class knew that the man they swore an oath to really was   
   dead?   
      
   So the Nazi officials needed Hitler to be alive... or for   
   everyone to believe he was alive.   
      
   The Americans? Well. We wanted all the loot and by "Loot"   
   I mean Nazi technology and scientists. And it worked!   
      
   BECAUSE the war was dragged out, the U.S. captured   
   Peenemünde -- even though it was in the Russian sector!   
   The U.S. was able to overrun and loot Peenemünde because,   
   with everyone believing that Hitler was alive, the war   
   dragged on under the Nazis and the Red Army was throwing   
   everything it had at Berlin.   
      
   THE BRITISH wanted to overrun as much of Europe as possible,   
   and keep it out of Russian hands. In the end it didn't work   
   too well because the U.S. and U.K. had already agreed on   
   what would fall under Russian control, and the U.S. had zero   
   interest in fighting Russia.   
      
   No, we still had Japan to defeat, the Russians were pretty   
   good allies, contributed way too much to the victory (Ike   
   make it clear that he believed that the Russians used too   
   many men and not enough smarts) and had no taste for war   
   against the Russians.   
      
   But, it sort of worked. Austria remained with the west and   
   Churchill got his way with Greece...   
      
   Stalin would benefit from a "Hitler is alive" even if he   
   were dead narrative. The war against Germany was making   
   him the master of territory he could only dream of!  Amd   
   the Russians stole literally everything that wasn't nailed   
   down.   
      
   Wait. That's not true. They dismantled equipment, whole   
   factories and shipped them back to Russia!   
      
   It's long been said that, at the end of the war, the Germans   
   were dragging their feet, postponing surrender in order to   
   move west and surrender to Americans or other western allies.   
   So even the Germans who were NOT Nazis, maybe even sympathetic   
   to the July 20 plot had reasons to want to drag things out...   
      
   And we're not talking about a long time here.   
      
   IT WAS LESS THAN 10 MONTHS!   
      
   That's it; less than 10 months! During war time... in a Nazi   
   (fascist) state with no free press and an entire department,   
   a government ministry for "Propaganda."   
      
   That's it. If Hitler died in the July bomb plot, they only   
   had to keep it a secret for 10 months, under war time   
   secrecy & control on information...   
      
   It's NOT far fetched!   
      
   AND it was believed to be true back then!  There was a lot   
   of British speculation that Hitler was dead...   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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