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   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/17/2025 3:52 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 8/17/25 4:25 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >   
   >> Have you even read "On the Origin of Species"?   
   >   
   > Which version?   
   >   
   > But, speaking of "Have you ever read," if you ever read what you're   
   > supposedly replying to, what specifically do you want to dispute,   
   > and why?   
   >   
   >> As for Gregor Mendel, Darwin never read the manuscript   
   >   
   > An except was published in a book which Darwin own and did read,   
   > and left notes in the margins (though not on the except from   
   > Mendel but it proves he read the book) and Mendel did send him   
   > a copy which Darwin conveniently "Lost," along with letters from   
   > Wallace that didn't make him look too good. All of this happened   
   > BEFORE he came out with this arguably retarded "Pangenesis."   
   >   
   > Yes Darwin was handed the answer FIRST, and then came up with   
   > his pseudo scientific idiocy of pangenesis.   
   >   
   > Later I can explain this all again, and you can fail to comprehend   
   > a word of it, again.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
   Yep, there were 5 editions of the Origin; everyone knows that.  Read the   
   1st.  I am not sure what your point is about Mendel??  He was, of   
   course, a Augustinian friar and Roman Catholic priest who published his   
   seminal paper in a minor research journal, and for whatever reason,   
   Father Mendel did not publicize his results all that much.  As I recall,   
   this one paper was his only significant scientific paper; eventually, he   
   abandoned his research entirely due to a tornado or other   
   weather-related disaster at his monastery; plus, he a got a religious   
   promotion, and he focused his energies afterwards on that.   
      
   And, so, yes, Mendel sent Darwin a copy of his research paper, which he   
   sent to a number of other naturalists of his day, but as I told you, few   
   were able to read Mendel's work and understand it due to its statistical   
   nature; as such, it got passed over for nearly a generation, only to be   
   "rediscovered" at the end of the 19th-century.   
      
   Of course, Darwin's focus on evolutionary change at the beginning was   
   the mechanism of natural selection (Origin, 1st edition), but over time,   
   Darwin himself drifted away from that paradigm into the paradigm of   
   Lamarckism (Origin, 5th edition.)  Of course, August Weismann put an   
   abrupt end to Lamarckism with his famous experiments of cutting of the   
   tails of rats.   
      
   Dawn   
      
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