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   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 8/20/2025 7:25 PM, JTEM wrote:   
   > On 8/20/25 7:56 PM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >> On 8/20/2025 11:10 AM, JTEM wrote:   
   >>> On 8/20/25 8:34 AM, Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> I have read the Origin.   
   >>>   
   >>> No you don't. Remember:  You're pretending to NOT be a religious   
   >>> fundamentalist. Instead of INTERPRETING the words of Darwin,   
   >>> just look at what he did!   
   >>>   
   >>> Look at how he  /Applied/  his beliefs.   
   >>>   
   >>> AFTER Origins was published he gained prominence, he was contact   
   >>> by Mendel with his findings, Darwin was exposed to Mendel's work   
   >>> in literature that he owned AND THEN he produced the pseudo   
   >>> scientific idiocy that is pangenesis.   
   >>>   
   >>> Pangenesis, as I already pointed out, was nothing more than a   
   >>> variation on lamarckism and totally in line with the lysenkoism   
   >>> that the communist world produced as a replacement for the   
   >>> OUTLAWED "Theory of Evolution."   
   >>>   
   >>> So, don't read Origins, go read about Lamarckism, pangenesis   
   >>> and lysenkoism. Google Stalin and his ban on evolution.   
   >>>   
   >>> Done.   
   >>>   
   >>> WHAT DID DARWIN ACTUALLY BELIEVE AND PUT INTO WORDS __AFTER__   
   >>> ORIGINS?   
   >>>   
   >>> Pangenesis.   
   >>>   
   >>> Is pangenesis "Evolution?"   
   >>>   
   >>> No.   
   >>>   
   >>>> The phrase that Darwin used for "evolution" was "descent with   
   >>>> modification".   
   >>>   
   >>> "Transmutation."   
   >   
   >> Just out of pure curiosity   
   >   
   > Are you actually pretending to NOT be a religious fundamentalist?!?!?   
   >   
   > You need someone to tell you what to think?!?!?   
   >   
   >> can you name a single scholar who agrees with you??   
   >   
   > Can you name a single scholar who DISAGREES with the fact that   
   > Darwin's "Theory" was pangenesis, that's Stalin & Mao OUTLAWED   
   > evolution and adopted lysenkoism, which was nothing more than   
   > a flavor of the same lamarckism that Darwin plagiarized?   
   >   
   > One scholar? Even one?   
   >   
   > You DID Google it, right?   
   >   
   > You wanted to contest what I said so you of course Googled   
   > it and you found...   
   >   
   > what?   
   >   
   > Darwin wasn't writing about evolution. He did later adopt the   
   > term, when others fed it to him, but he never grasped it and   
   > clearly never believed in it.   
   >   
   > Darwin did NOT advance science he damaged it, held it back   
   > 20 years, just by becoming the name & face of naturalism and   
   > marginalizing Mendel...   
   >   
      
      
   Honey,   
      
   You have a fatal flaw in your argument, and here it is:   
      
   EVERYONE MARGINALIZED MENDEL, INCLUDING, MENDEL HIMSELF.   
      
   Get it now?  When did Darwin die?  (Answer:  1882)  When did Mendel die?   
     (Answer:  1884)  Now, when did the Neo-Darwinian synthesis emerge;   
   here's the answer:   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Darwinism   
      
   "Neo-Darwinism is generally used to describe any integration of Charles   
   Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection with Gregor Mendel's   
   theory of genetics. It mostly refers to evolutionary theory from either   
   1895 (for the combinations of Darwin's and August Weismann's theories of   
   evolution) or 1942 ("modern synthesis"), but it can mean any new   
   Darwinian- and Mendelian-based theory, such as the current evolutionary   
   theory."   
      
    From Darwin's Origin, here is the breakdown of the number of times some   
   phrases & words that he used:   
      
   natural selection:  285   
   modification:  166   
   descent:  88   
   common ancestor:  6   
   transmutation:  1   
   evolution:  0   
      
   Is this clearer for you now??   
      
   Dawn   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)