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   From: Kenito@Benito.naw   
      
   On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 09:17:31 -0700, "Andrew"    
   wrote:   
      
   >"Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:10972c0$iuqh$1@dont-email.me...   
   >> Andrew wrote:   
   >>> "Mitchell Holman" wrote:   
   >>>> "Andrew" wrote:   
   >>>>> "I will lay it on the line - there is not one such fossil for which   
   >>>>> one could make a watertight argument. The reason is that statements   
   >>>>> about ancestry and descent are not applicable in the fossil record.   
   >>>>> Is Archaeopteryx the ancestor of all birds? Perhaps yes, perhaps no   
   >>>>> there is no way of answering the question. It is easy enough to make   
   >>>>> up stories of how one form gave rise to another, and to find reasons   
   >>>>> why the stages should be favoured by natural selection. But such   
   >>>>> stories are not part of science, for there is no way of putting them to   
   >>>>> the test." ~ Dr. Colin Patterson, paleontologist   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record   
   >>>>> persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees   
   >>>>> that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of   
   >>>>> their branches; the rest is inference..not the evidence of   
   >>>>> fossils." ~ Stephen J. Gould, paleontologist   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> "Evolution requires intermediate forms between species and   
   >>>>> paleontology does not provide them. The gaps must therefore be a   
   >>>>> contingent feature of the record."   
   >>>>> ~ David B. Kitts, Ph.D, zoologist, paleontologist   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Many species now going extinct may vanish without a fossil trace   
   >>>> March 21, 2016   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The researchers were shocked to find that more than 85 percent of the   
   >>>> mammal species at high risk of extinction lack a fossil record.   
   >>>> Viewed from the perspective of the fossil record alone, the magnitude   
   >>>> of the current mammal die-off thus appears markedly reduced. The   
   >>>> picture may be even more distorted for other land-dwelling   
   >>>> vertebrates: only 3 percent of today's threatened bird species and 1.6   
   >>>> percent of threatened reptile species have a known fossil record.   
   >>>> https://today.uic.edu/many-species-now-going-extinct-may-vanish-without-   
   >>>> a-fossil-trace/   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If a species never gets fossilized can you claim it never existed?   
   >>>   
   >>> No, but neither could one claim that they did. And that does not negate   
   >>> the fact that there is no empirical evidence of transitional forms   
   >>> ever existing.   
   >>>   
   >>> Bottom line, you have been deceived. Which   
   >>> would not have happened if you had not been   
   >>> so gullible.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Andrew,   
   >>   
   >> Here are two neat little books; I've posted about these here before, but   
   >> you'll never read either:   
   >>   
   >> https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/1886/science-and-cr   
   ationism-a-view-from-the-national-academy-of   
   >>   
   >> with an updated version:   
   >>   
   >> https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/6024/science-and-cr   
   ationism-a-view-from-the-national-academy-of   
   >>   
   >> They are both free, of course, but I doubt that you will click either link.   
   >   
   >If you send me a link, I will certainly go to it.   
   >   
      
        Cool. Dawn sent them in the post you replied to, so enjoy.   
      
   [Snip the remainder as I have no comment]   
      
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