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   XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 6, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   (Message-ID: <109igbl$3b0jk$1@dont-email.me>):   
      
   > On 9/6/2025 2:17 PM, Andrew wrote:   
   > > "Dawn Flood" wrote in message news:109hoef$350ek$3@dont-email.me...   
   > > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:   
   > > > > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > > > > "Kenito Benito" wrote:   
   > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > "Kenito Benito" wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > "Andrew" wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRIOR TO DARWIN, THE DOMINANT VIEW AMONG SCHOLARS WAS   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > CREATIONISM!!!   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get it now?! Yes, Darwin got some things wrong!   
   Here's   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Darwin's BIG contribution:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > NATURALISM REPLACED SUPERNATURALISM AS THE   
   EXPLANATION FOR   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > LIFE!   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you need me to make things clearer for you??   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dawn   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Dawn, but you see, Without a Creation there   
   would be   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > no naturalism.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Unrefuted fact, again pointing to Creation.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, conviction often came to him (Darwin)   
   that he   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > was devoting his life to a phantasy. He said that   
   often a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > "cold shudder" would run trough his body testifying to   
   that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > fact.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > "Often and often a cold shudder has run through me,   
   and I   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > have asked myself whether I may not have devoted my   
   life to a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > phantasy." ~Darwin   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Andrew,   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Don't start! Okay??   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Why do folks like you get nervous like this? Because you   
   > > > > > > > > > > have been exposed to truth that exposes your position to be   
   > > > > > > > > > > indefensible. And that you stand on a platform that is   
   false.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Dawn is a creationist? I'm surprised.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > No.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > But above you claim Dawn's position is indefensible.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Yes.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > As such, you are making the claim she is.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Her position is.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. If you want to explore Creationism (again!), then   
   > > > > > > > > > > > start another thread in a.a.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > It is _YOUR_ above that I am responding to!   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > I saw you were talking about naturalism and creationism.   
   > > > > > > > > > > I'm simply pointing out to you the simple fact that, with-   
   > > > > > > > > > > out a creation there could not possibly be any   
   'naturalism'.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Everything exists. How it got to this point is the question.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Where did it start? Do you ever connsider that?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > The "Big Bang" is where everything started.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You apparently believe that. That the origin of all   
   > > > > > > things is explained by the fantasized explosion of   
   > > > > > > a primordial cosmic egg that came from nothing.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Although blatantly contrary to the laws of science,   
   > > > > > > nevertheless you believe~ by faith. Yet you still fail to   
   > > > > > > understand how foolish your position is.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Andrew,   
   > > > > > We've posted about this so many times:   
   > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > You can find these sorts of ideas in The Physical Review Letters;   
   > > > > > just Google it. Per the physicists, no Conservation Laws need be   
   > > > > > violated!!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Hypothesized models may sound plausible,.but they exist only in the   
   > > > > realm of fantasy. Those who want the truth will not abandon the   
   > > > > established laws of science.   
   > > >   
   > > > You've never read these papers, Andrew, and you never will. (I've   
   > > > read a couple of them.) I've invited you to email the American   
   > > > Physical Society (the publishers of The Physical Review Letters) with   
   > > > your concerns, criticisms, etc., and you've never done that and you   
   > > > never will.   
   > >   
   > > Although this is a discussion group, Dawn finds that she is unable.   
   > > Therefore she refers us to the high priests of her religion. But the   
   > > problem is, it is a false religion.   
   > > Although she cannot explain it, she is a *believer* by faith. And   
   > > says that if we have any questions to -->  "go to them"; and don't ask   
   > > her, because it is ~ over her head!   
   >   
   > Yep, physics &  math are hard subjects, that is true. Unless you know   
   > (without looking it up!) what a "metric" is, and in particular, the FLRW   
   > metric, you know nothing about cosmology, and you really do need to stop   
   > pontificating.   
   >   
   > Dawn   
   >   
   > P.S. I know what both of those things from above are, but yet, I am not   
   > a cosmologist. (Although, I do know a fair bit of cosmetology!)   
      
   ROTFLOL, women know a lot about Cosmetics. ;)   
   Cosmetologist is a high demand Job in Hollywood and TV. ;)   
      
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