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   None wrote:   
   > On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   > (Message-ID:<40b4253c-cfab-c94e-400d-e6a5e4ed4743@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >   
   >> None wrote:   
   >>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>> (Message-ID:<7eda1708-e6d3-9729-9571-07b6d26f6447@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>   
   >>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>>> (Message-ID:<06a0238b-feb9-9555-dd59-2b9bffd6e3a0@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:43 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: <10a1e6t$3jm3q$2@dont-email.me>):   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 7:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> None wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>> news:10a081v$366mu$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> None wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109vbc8$2tbin$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:rKAwQ.12261$7F4e.8283@fx05.ams4:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109tfa4$29gbi$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To sum-up, paleoanthropology is a valid science, because,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Major universities exist which offer doctoral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The US National Academy of Sciences has admitted   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropologists to its ranks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Peer-reviewed research journals exist for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Few, if any, scientists dispute the fact that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology is a valid science.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of all that you say above, it is noted that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are at a complete loss of words when I ask   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to tell us about any specific paleo-anthropological   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery that shows that they have enlightened   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us about ~anything~...in your own words.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a "complete loss of words"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell us the age of the earth, or even   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us your opinion of it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The earth as you know it was not until it was called   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth on the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> until the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around 6,000   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. In   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal time, not figurative nor theoretical.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6,000?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you determine that date?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What date? I mentioned time approximate.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> OK, "time approximate"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Why 6000 years?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> What happened then?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And are their so called ""discoveries"" built upon   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific method, or are they built upon fantasy?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who want the truth do not accept stories that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are built upon fantasy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Christian: Someone who believes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in dragons, unicorns, talking snakes and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmutation (all mentioned in the Bible)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but accuses those citing scientific data   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "indulging in fantasies".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I do not fit your daffynition.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific data only recounts what is reversed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineered, and from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that understanding, some try to create variations based   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the same   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that always existed in the time of man, reshape,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reuse,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most generally it all contaminates the earth and its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> are right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then there would be no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> earthquakes. All volcanos would erupt and known cycles and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> explosive   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> rates.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> If such massive errors are made then what credibility does   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> your statement have.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Science has recently recognized another light form, one   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> that was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> spoken of near 5,000 years ago + or - and they have yet to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> determine   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> its parameters.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Oh, the memories of my fundamentalist Christian childhood! Of   
   >>>>>>>>>> course,   
   >>>>>>>>>> my childhood occurred back in the 1980s, which, someday, may   
   >>>>>>>>>> become   
   >>>>>>>>>> known as the end of the "Information Dark Ages".   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Dawn   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Or more likely the beginning of the end of this age.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> you mean zombie jesus?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Yeah, Jesus' "imminent return" has been predicted for quite some   
   >>>>>>> time now!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predictions_and_claims_for   
   the_Second_Comi   
   >>>>>>> ng   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Given the Second Law of Thermodynamics and the fact that Jesus'   
   >>>>>>> remains are in a highly advanced state of decomposition, I think   
   >>>>>>> that his "return" is quite unlikely!!   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Dawn   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> during the cricifiction, the trauma turned jesus into deadpool,   
   >>>>>> that is the most logical conclusion, he is an x-man.. x-person.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Which the event was prophesied of around 1,000 years before that.   
   >>>>> Through Daniel, Isaiah, King David and others in the OT, but not your   
      
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