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   jojo wrote:   
   > Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >> On 9/12/2025 11:34 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>> None wrote:   
   >>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>> (Message-ID:<7eda1708-e6d3-9729-9571-07b6d26f6447@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>>>> (Message-ID:<06a0238b-feb9-9555-   
   >>>>>> dd59-2b9bffd6e3a0@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:43 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: <10a1e6t$3jm3q$2@dont-email.me>):   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 7:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> None   wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> news:10a081v$366mu$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> None   wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109vbc8$2tbin$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:rKAwQ.12261$7F4e.8283@fx05.ams4:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109tfa4$29gbi$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To sum-up, paleoanthropology is a valid   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science, because,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Major universities exist which offer doctoral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The US National Academy of Sciences has   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> admitted   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropologists to its ranks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Peer-reviewed research journals exist for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Few, if any, scientists dispute the fact that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology is a valid science.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of all that you say above, it is noted   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are at a complete loss of words when I ask   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to tell us about any specific   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleo-anthropological   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery that shows that they have enlightened   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us about ~anything~...in your own words.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a "complete loss of words"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell us the age of the earth, or even   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us your opinion of it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The earth as you know it was not until it was called   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth on the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around 6,000   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. In   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal time, not figurative nor theoretical.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6,000?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you determine that date?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> What date? I mentioned time approximate.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> OK, "time approximate"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6000 years?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> What happened then?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And are their so called ""discoveries"" built upon   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific method, or are they built upon fantasy?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who want the truth do not accept stories that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are built upon fantasy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Christian: Someone who believes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in dragons, unicorns, talking snakes and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmutation (all mentioned in the Bible)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but accuses those citing scientific data   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "indulging in fantasies".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I do not fit your daffynition.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific data only recounts what is reversed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineered, and from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that understanding, some try to create variations   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> based   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the same   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that always existed in the time of man,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reshape,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reuse,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most generally it all contaminates the earth   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> earthquakes. All volcanos would erupt and known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> cycles and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> explosive   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> rates.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> If such massive errors are made then what   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> credibility does   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> your statement have.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Science has recently recognized another light form, one   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> that was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> spoken of near 5,000 years ago + or - and they have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> yet to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> determine   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> its parameters.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Oh, the memories of my fundamentalist Christian   
   >>>>>>>>>>> childhood! Of   
   >>>>>>>>>>> course,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> my childhood occurred back in the 1980s, which,   
   >>>>>>>>>>> someday, may   
   >>>>>>>>>>> become   
   >>>>>>>>>>> known as the end of the "Information Dark Ages".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>> Dawn   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> Or more likely the beginning of the end of this age.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> you mean zombie jesus?   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> LOL!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yeah, Jesus' "imminent return" has been predicted for   
   >>>>>>>> quite some   
   >>>>>>>> time now!   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/   
   >>>>>>>> Predictions_and_claims_for_the_Second_Coming   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Given the Second Law of Thermodynamics and the fact that   
   >>>>>>>> Jesus'   
   >>>>>>>> remains are in a highly advanced state of decomposition,   
   >>>>>>>> I think   
      
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