XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian
From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com
On 9/13/2025 2:09 PM, jojo wrote:
> jojo wrote:
>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>> On 9/12/2025 11:34 PM, jojo wrote:
>>>> None wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote
>>>>> (Message-ID:<7eda1708-
>>>>> e6d3-9729-9571-07b6d26f6447@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):
>>>>>
>>>>>> None wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote
>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<06a0238b-feb9-9555-
>>>>>>> dd59-2b9bffd6e3a0@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:43 AM, jojo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> None wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote
>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: <10a1e6t$3jm3q$2@dont-email.me>):
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 7:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> None wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:10a081v$366mu$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109vbc8$2tbin$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:rKAwQ.12261$7F4e.8283@fx05.ams4:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109tfa4$29gbi$1@dont-email.me...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To sum-up, paleoanthropology is a valid science,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Major universities exist which offer doctoral
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The US National Academy of Sciences has admitted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropologists to its ranks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Peer-reviewed research journals exist for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Few, if any, scientists dispute the fact that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology is a valid science.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of all that you say above, it is noted that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are at a complete loss of words when I ask
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to tell us about any specific paleo-anthropological
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery that shows that they have enlightened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us about ~anything~...in your own words.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a "complete loss of words"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell us the age of the earth, or even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us your opinion of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The earth as you know it was not until it was called
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around 6,000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal time, not figurative nor theoretical.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6,000?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you determine that date?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What date? I mentioned time approximate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, "time approximate"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6000 years?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And are their so called ""discoveries"" built upon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific method, or are they built upon fantasy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who want the truth do not accept stories that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are built upon fantasy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Christian: Someone who believes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in dragons, unicorns, talking snakes and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmutation (all mentioned in the Bible)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but accuses those citing scientific data
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "indulging in fantasies".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I do not fit your daffynition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific data only recounts what is reversed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineered, and from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that understanding, some try to create variations based
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that always existed in the time of man, reshape,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reuse,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most generally it all contaminates the earth and its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then there would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earthquakes. All volcanos would erupt and known cycles and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If such massive errors are made then what credibility does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your statement have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science has recently recognized another light form, one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoken of near 5,000 years ago + or - and they have yet to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determine
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its parameters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, the memories of my fundamentalist Christian childhood! Of
>>>>>>>>>>>> course,
>>>>>>>>>>>> my childhood occurred back in the 1980s, which, someday, may
>>>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>> known as the end of the "Information Dark Ages".
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or more likely the beginning of the end of this age.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you mean zombie jesus?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Jesus' "imminent return" has been predicted for quite some
>>>>>>>>> time now!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>>>>>>> Predictions_and_claims_for_the_Second_Coming
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Given the Second Law of Thermodynamics and the fact that Jesus'
>>>>>>>>> remains are in a highly advanced state of decomposition, I think
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