XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/13/2025 1:24 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   > None  wrote in news:10a4a71$j4ov$2@dont-email.me:   
   >   
   >> On Sep 13, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>   
   >>> None   wrote in news:10a2ubk$5del$3@dont-email.me:   
   >>>   
   >>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   >>>> (Message-ID:<4ti9ckpfrip5vckkmrc81ri5iqi25uujj6@4ax.com>):   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 17:18:56 -0700, None  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   >>>>>> (Message-ID:<0oc9ck53j37rmkq3hv6u0m5klmi87d33ib@4ax.com>):   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 12:56:54 -0700, None   
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   >>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<7qp8ckhb1epb3r83oopm8j4sub39g8ftog@4ax.com>):   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 21:37:20 -0700, None   
   >>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to   
   >>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?   
   >>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known   
   >>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our   
   >>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those   
   >>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates   
   >>>>>>>>>>> are right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then there   
   >>>>>>>>>> would be no earthquakes.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> The continents move at about the rate at which   
   >>>>>>>>> fingernails grow. When two continents (or, more   
   >>>>>>>>> precisely, the tectonic plates they are a part of) move   
   >>>>>>>>> past each other, sometimes they get "stuck" on the rough   
   >>>>>>>>> edges of the plates they're moving past. The pressure to   
   >>>>>>>>> keep moving persists, though, and finally the two plates   
   >>>>>>>>> break apart from each other. The energy released when   
   >>>>>>>>> they break apart is an earthquake.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> You just showed that the continents stop moving   
   >>>>>>>> periodically, and you did not   
   >>>>>>>> post how much they jumped when an earthquake happens.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Why do you need to know that?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I don’t, but you do so as not to make foolish declarations.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If you didn't need to know, why did you ask the question?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Yet we often see the   
   >>>>>>>> evidences of that when the ground opens up and the gap left   
   >>>>>>>> can be seen in inches to yards. It is inconsistent   
   >>>>>>>> movement. Many have seen the earth opening and closing in   
   >>>>>>>> mere moments as is caught on video.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> No, there aren't *that* many earthquakes. The rate of   
   >>>>>>> movement has been measured with satellites and other such   
   >>>>>>> precision instruments.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Wow, are you really lacking that much, there are literally   
   >>>>>> 100’s to 1,000’s of earthquakes every day.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Which is not many at any given spot on the earth.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> All volcanos would erupt and known cycles and explosive   
   >>>>>>>>>> rates.   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> No, volcanic eruptions are caused by other factors   
   >>>>>>>>> besides just the rate at which tectonic plates move.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So you agreed with, me as well as added more excuses which   
   >>>>>>>> you could not rationalize.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> LOL! That was the last comment I made, so no more "excuses"   
   >>>>>>> could have been added.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> However in this case, I was correct and did not make a trolling   
   >>>>>> off the wall comment like you did.   
   >>>>> "Trolling off the wall"? What is that?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> There are designed in limitations to all the realities of   
   >>>>>>>> this realm. Which   
   >>>>>>>> the forces of realm must adhere to, and that is why all   
   >>>>>>>> these natural laws and rules can be identified via the   
   >>>>>>>> reverse engineering of sciences. Which is why there is   
   >>>>>>>> order.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Reverse engineering from what to what? How do you know the   
   >>>>>>> order hasn't always been there?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That is what I said, the order of this realm was there all   
   >>>>>> along, ever since it was made.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, I mean without it ever being made.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Do you know anything about reverse engineering?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Reverse engineering is when you figure out something's design by   
   >>>>> studying its function. What does that have to do with the "realm"   
   >>>>> of science?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> There is another realm to which none of these laws of order   
   >>>>>>>> apply. Yet like   
   >>>>>>>> anhydrous ammonia and water can dwell together in the same   
   >>>>>>>> physical space, so can the two realms exist. Water being   
   >>>>>>>> similar to the elements of this realm.   
   >>>>>>>> If you have any scientific knowledge you should be able to   
   >>>>>>>> understand that.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> What makes you think there is another realm?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> I do not think it, I know it is real and exists, something you   
   >>>>>> all deny, yet you are affected by its realty.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What makes you think you know it's real? And how does that affect   
   >>>>> the rest of us?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You have totally lost your trolling touch.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I had to laugh at some of your comments/questions/reasonings.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> you are out of phase, even with your own statements. That is sad to   
   >>>> see. :(   
   >>>   
   >>> This is how all arguments with Christians end.   
   >>> They toss out some claims, you ask intelligent   
   >>> questions about them, they ignore them, call   
   >>> you a troll and run away. As with Robert, as   
   >>> with Andrew, as with this “None”.   
   >>   
   >> ROTFLOL You consider your questions intelligent? Based upon what? Ego?   
   >> A point to argue that is based on foolishness?   
   >>   
   >   
   >       Your claim:   
   >   
   >> The earth as you know it was not until it was called earth on the   
   >> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were not until the   
   >> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around 6,000 years ago.   
   >   
   >   
   >       I just asked what happened 6009   
   > years ago and where does the Bible   
   > say that.   
   >   
   >   
   >> You need to learn in order to have knowledge, and then use that   
   >> knowledge to come up with a well defined question that is not based on   
   >> foolish assumptions or old wives tales. If you ask a question to learn   
   >> something so that you are no longer ignorant of that topic, then the   
   >> answer will stick in your mind forever which may lead to further   
   >> questions once the door of knowledge was opened to you and you   
   >> received it.   
   >>   
   >> If you asked the same question over and over again, it shows that you   
   >> were unable to comprehend it or willingly denied the answer showing   
      
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