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   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 13, 2025, jojo wrote   
   (Message-ID:<9ed1bd8b-b235-7c45-99e7-5c6db3d1a2d0@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
      
   > None wrote:   
   > > On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:<66cd3d50-fa5c-b89b-0405-5364b6196bec@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   > >   
   > > > None wrote:   
   > > > > On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID:<36cb7b5c-2ec7-c228-591c-669629382162@shinku   
   aoyagi.konjou>):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > None wrote:   
   > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   > > > > > > (Message-ID:<3062ad19-25c3-a45a-e05d-a79020cb5598@sh   
   nku.aoyagi.konjou>)   
   > > > > > > :   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > None wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > > > > > > > > (Message-ID: <10a1e6t$3jm3q$2@dont-email.me>):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On 9/12/2025 7:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > None   wrote in news:10a081v$   
   66mu$1@dont-email.me:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > None   wrote in news:109v   
   c8$2tbin$1@dont-email.me:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Andrew"  wrote in   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:rKAwQ.12261$7F4e.8283@fx05.ams4:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dawn Flood" wrote in message   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news:109tfa4$29gbi$1@dont-email.me...   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To sum-up, paleoanthropology is a valid   
   science, because,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Major universities exist which offer   
   doctoral degrees in   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paleoanthropology.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) The US National Academy of Sciences has   
   admitted   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paleoanthropologists to its ranks.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Peer-reviewed research journals exist for   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paleoanthropology.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) Few, if any, scientists dispute the fact   
   that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paleoanthropology is a valid science.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In spite of all that you say above, it is noted   
   that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you are at a complete loss of words when I ask   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you to tell us about any specific    
   aleo-anthropological   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discovery that shows that they have enlightened   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us about ~anything~...in your own words.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And you are a "complete loss of words"   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to tell us the age of the earth, or even   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > us your opinion of it.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > The earth as you know it was not until it was called   
   earth on the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were   
   not until the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around   
   6,000 years ago.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > In   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > literal time, not figurative nor theoretical.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > Why 6,000?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you determine that date?   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > What date? I mentioned time approximate.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > OK, "time approximate"   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Why 6000 years?   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > What happened then?   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And are their so called ""discoveries"" built   
   upon   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientific method, or are they built upon   
   fantasy?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Those who want the truth do not accept stories   
   that   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are built upon fantasy.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern Christian: Someone who believes   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in dragons, unicorns, talking snakes and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transmutation (all mentioned in the Bible)   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but accuses those citing scientific data   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of "indulging in fantasies".   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then I do not fit your daffynition.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific data only recounts what is reversed   
   engineered, and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > from   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > that understanding, some try to create variations   
   based on the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > same   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > things that always existed in the time of man,   
   reshape, and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > reuse,   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > and most generally it all contaminates the earth and   
   its   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > environment.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > What other data is there to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > measure time but scientific data?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > The universe expands at a known   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > rate, the continents move at a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > known rate, starlight reaches our   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes at a known rate. If those   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > known rates are wrong what rates   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > are right?   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > If the continents moved at a known rate then there would   
   be no   
   > > > > > > > > > > > earthquakes. All volcanos would erupt and known cycles   
   and   
   > > > > > > > > > > > explosive   
   > > > > > > > > > > > rates.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > If such massive errors are made then what credibility   
   does the rest   
   > > > > > > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > your statement have.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Science has recently recognized another light form, one   
   that was   
   > > > > > > > > > > > spoken of near 5,000 years ago + or - and they have yet   
   to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > determine   
   > > > > > > > > > > > its parameters.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
      
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