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   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 13, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   (Message-ID:):   
      
   > On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 17:01:55 -0700, None  wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Sep 13, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > (Message-ID:):   
   > >   
   > > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 14:06:02 -0700, None  wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > > > > (Message-ID: <10a4c55$jrvu$4@dont-email.me>):   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On 9/13/2025 12:26 PM, None wrote:   
   > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > >    
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Historically both answers are written in the Bible.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Please do not waste too much of your time on this stuff. Life is far   
   > > > > > too short!   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Dawn   
   > > > >   
   > > > > This ’stuff’ ? If you are speaking of the things of God   
   > > >   
   > > > I think she was saying that they're not things of God to begin with.   
   > > >   
   > > > > then this short   
   > > > > time we have is extremely vital to our eternal futures.   
   > > >   
   > > > Christians throughout the ages have believed that they lived in the   
   > > > end times -- from Paul who clearly believed he would be alive and   
   > > > waiting for Jesus when the world came to an end, to Christians who   
   > > > believed that 1000 CE portended an end of the world, to the Millerites   
   > > > of the 19th century Great Disappointment who calculated that the world   
   > > > would end in October 1844 -- so perhaps you shouldn't be so sure that   
   > > > "time is short.”   
   > >   
   > > We were told to be constantly vigilant and live our lives expected the   
   > > suddenly of suddenlies. After all who wants to be caught short like the 5   
   > > virgins left behind.   
   >   
   > Well, couldn't they get a second chance?!   
      
   If they make it through the initial WWW alive, yes, but from what I Read that   
   they must not recant. For many will be beheaded after torture.   
   >   
   >   
   > > Yet Jesus gave us the signs, and when they are all   
   > > happening at the same time, with an increasing ferocity and the nations are   
   > > all lined up as specified for a future war of MAJOR proportions. There is   
   > > not much left to be fulfilled before Jesus comes in the air.   
   >   
   > War, not peace, is the norm for cities and states in ancient times and   
   > even in the modern world. Any "signs" of Jesus' supposed return have   
   > long since occurred, without any end of the world to go with them.   
      
   Nope, for a prophecy to be fulfilled all aspects of it must happen. Only   
   partial aspects that fit near the defined prophecy, will they protected those   
   that were aware, were not the actual fulfillment.   
   >   
   >   
   > > For instance, if you see the city of Damascus totally destroyed in one   
   > > night, as described in the Bible, I don’t see what else is left before   
   the   
   > > Tribulation. Plus there is a viable chance that that is the trigger.   
   >   
   > Some scholars see the destruction of Damascus as a prophecy which was   
   > fulfilled by the destruction of Damascus by Assyria in the 8th century   
   > BCE. No "time of tribulation" in the modern world needed for any of   
   > it.   
      
   Some mistaken ones did, no doubt, but the prophecy never occurred to the full   
   discription of it such as to it was fully there when night fell and the next   
   morning it was gone, plus it will never be inhabited again was not fulfilled.   
      
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