XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.religion.christian   
   From: none@none.non   
      
   On Sep 13, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   (Message-ID: <10a51be$r2fg$1@dont-email.me>):   
      
   > On 9/13/2025 4:40 PM, None wrote:   
   > > On Sep 13, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   > > (Message-ID: <10a4i4p$lt9j$2@dont-email.me>):   
   > >   
   > > > On 9/13/2025 1:24 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   > > > > None   wrote in news:10a4a71$j4ov$2@dont-email.me:   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > > > > (Message-ID: ):   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > None   wrote in news:10a2ubk$5del$3@dont-email.me:   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > > > (Message-ID:<4ti9ckpfrip5vckkmrc81ri5iqi25uujj6@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 17:18:56 -0700, None  wrote:   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > (Message-ID:<0oc9ck53j37rmkq3hv6u0m5klmi87d33ib@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 12:56:54 -0700, None   
   > > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 12, 2025, Vincent Maycock wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > > (Message-ID:<7qp8ckhb1epb3r83oopm8j4sub39g   
   ftog@4ax.com>):   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 21:37:20 -0700, None   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What other data is there to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > measure time but scientific data?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The universe expands at a known   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rate, the continents move at a   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known rate, starlight reaches our   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > eyes at a known rate. If those   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > known rates are wrong what rates   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are right?   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the continents moved at a known rate then there   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > would be no earthquakes.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > The continents move at about the rate at which   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > fingernails grow. When two continents (or, more   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > precisely, the tectonic plates they are a part of) move   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > past each other, sometimes they get "stuck" on the   
   rough   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > edges of the plates they're moving past. The pressure   
   to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > keep moving persists, though, and finally the two   
   plates   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > break apart from each other. The energy released when   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > they break apart is an earthquake.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > You just showed that the continents stop moving   
   > > > > > > > > > > > periodically, and you did not   
   > > > > > > > > > > > post how much they jumped when an earthquake happens.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Why do you need to know that?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I don’t, but you do so as not to make foolish declarations.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > If you didn't need to know, why did you ask the question?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > Yet we often see the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > evidences of that when the ground opens up and the gap   
   left   
   > > > > > > > > > > > can be seen in inches to yards. It is inconsistent   
   > > > > > > > > > > > movement. Many have seen the earth opening and closing in   
   > > > > > > > > > > > mere moments as is caught on video.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > No, there aren't *that* many earthquakes. The rate of   
   > > > > > > > > > > movement has been measured with satellites and other such   
   > > > > > > > > > > precision instruments.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Wow, are you really lacking that much, there are literally   
   > > > > > > > > > 100’s to 1,000’s of earthquakes every day.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Which is not many at any given spot on the earth.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > All volcanos would erupt and known cycles and   
   explosive   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > > rates.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > No, volcanic eruptions are caused by other factors   
   > > > > > > > > > > > > besides just the rate at which tectonic plates move.   
   > > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > So you agreed with, me as well as added more excuses   
   which   
   > > > > > > > > > > > you could not rationalize.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > LOL! That was the last comment I made, so no more "excuses"   
   > > > > > > > > > > could have been added.   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > However in this case, I was correct and did not make a   
   trolling   
   > > > > > > > > > off the wall comment like you did.   
   > > > > > > > > "Trolling off the wall"? What is that?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > There are designed in limitations to all the realities of   
   > > > > > > > > > > > this realm. Which   
   > > > > > > > > > > > the forces of realm must adhere to, and that is why all   
   > > > > > > > > > > > these natural laws and rules can be identified via the   
   > > > > > > > > > > > reverse engineering of sciences. Which is why there is   
   > > > > > > > > > > > order.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > Reverse engineering from what to what? How do you know the   
   > > > > > > > > > > order hasn't always been there?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > That is what I said, the order of this realm was there all   
   > > > > > > > > > along, ever since it was made.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > No, I mean without it ever being made.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Do you know anything about reverse engineering?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Reverse engineering is when you figure out something's design   
   by   
   > > > > > > > > studying its function. What does that have to do with the   
   "realm"   
   > > > > > > > > of science?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > > There is another realm to which none of these laws of   
   order   
   > > > > > > > > > > > apply. Yet like   
   > > > > > > > > > > > anhydrous ammonia and water can dwell together in the   
   same   
   > > > > > > > > > > > physical space, so can the two realms exist. Water being   
   > > > > > > > > > > > similar to the elements of this realm.   
   > > > > > > > > > > > If you have any scientific knowledge you should be able   
   to   
   > > > > > > > > > > > understand that.   
   > > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > > What makes you think there is another realm?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > I do not think it, I know it is real and exists, something   
   you   
   > > > > > > > > > all deny, yet you are affected by its realty.   
   > > > > > > > >   
      
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