XPost: sci.skeptic, alt.atheism, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: alt.religion.christian   
   From: sam@spade.invalid   
      
   None  wrote:   
   > On Sep 14, 2025, Samuel Spade wrote   
   > (Message-ID:):   
   >   
   > > Attila  wrote:   
   > > > On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 01:06:13 -0700, Samuel Spade   
   > > >   in alt.atheism with message-id   
   > > >   wrote:   
   > > >   
   > > > > None   wrote:   
   > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Samuel Spade wrote   
   > > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > > None   wrote:   
   > > > > > > > On Sep 13, 2025, Samuel Spade wrote   
   > > > > > > > (Message-ID:):   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > LOL! It's amazing that here in the 21st century, supposed   
   grown adults   
   > > > > > > > > believe in 1-week creation and The Flood. Then they try to   
   convince   
   > > > > > > > > atheists!   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Andrew &  Robert, you guys are more fun than a barrel of   
   monkeys.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Science and history support the days of creations.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Okay, I'll bite. I get to deny that, then you cite proof from true,   
   > > > > > > non-looney science and history sources that supports the 6 day   
   creation,   
   > > > > > > and you can make me look like a damn fool. Ready?...   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > No Rob, that's false. Science and history do not support the   
   Genesis   
   > > > > > > creation mythology.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Waiting...   
   > > > >   
   > > > > So, Robster, where's the beef? My invitation sits unrequited... all you   
   > > > > have to do is prove science &  history support creation, like you said   
   it   
   > > > > does, and I will be all humble and humiliated and everything.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You can do it!   
   > > > >   
   > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Plant life cannot survive   
   > > > > > > > 24 hours without the Sun.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Also false.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Then you are not knowledgeable about plant life and the total   
   absence of   
   > > > > > Light.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Are you a biologist now? Any healthy green plant can survive 24 hours   
   > > > > of darkness. You could conjure up a solar eclipse that long and prove   
   > > > > it!   
   > > >   
   > > > Excuse me - a solar eclipse only lasts a short time and a   
   > > > total eclipse can only last minutes.   
   > > >   
   > > > However there have been numerous occasions when the sun was   
   > > > blocked for over a day - such as during some volcano   
   > > > eruptions.   
   > >   
   > > A magic eclipse, like the one in Luke 23, can last for 3 hours.   
   > >   
   > > "44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all   
   > > the earth until the ninth hour. 45 And the sun was darkened, and the   
   > > veil of the temple was rent in the midst."   
   >   
   > Properly translated from greek to todays English it would read "it covered   
   > the land” or a "darkness covered the all the land”   
      
      
   Irrelevant.  The whole earth, or whole land, was dark from noon to 3pm.   
   Now how do you think that happened?   
      
   So you admit it wasn't a solar eclipse.  Did the sun turn off?  The   
   "firmament" became opaque?  No explanation besides "magic"?   
      
   Robert, now that we've established there wasn't an eclipse during the   
   crucifixion, what caused the darkness?   
      
   Then we'll move on to the earthquake and the zombies.   
      
      
   > "And it was now about the sixth hour. And a darkness came over the whole land   
   > until the ninth hour. The sun's light failed, and the curtain of the inner   
   > sanctuary was torn into two parts down the center. And Jesus, crying out with   
   > a loud voice said, Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit. And having   
   > said this, He breathed out His life. Now, the captain of one hundred Roman   
   > soldiers having seen this that had taken place, glorified God saying, Truly   
   > this man was upright in character. And all the people who had gathered   
   > together because of this spectacle, viewing attentively the things that had   
   > taken place, beating their breasts for grief, were returning."   
   >   
   > Luke was not a Jew.   
      
   Why bring up another irrelevant factoid?  If Luke existed, he was greek.   
      
      
   > > Not only that, the magic eclipse happened at the time of a full moon.   
   >   
   > You keep repeating that statement, which is absurdly false. Why?   
      
   Because it shows there was no eclipse, or else the gospels are wrong,   
   both of which you have previously denied.   
      
   Jesus was in Jerusalem for Passover, as the gospels say.  There will   
   always be a full moon on Passover night.  Jesus was crucified within a   
   couple days of Passover.  Solar eclipses can only happen at a new moon.   
      
   Apparently you have abandoned the idea of the darkness being caused by a   
   solar eclipse, so it's moot point.  There is hope for you yet!   
      
      
      
   > And even if you could have been right, all this happened during daylight   
   > hours.   
   >   
   > >   
   > > If you can do magic, reality is optional.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)