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   > > > > > > > > nations   
   > > > > > > > > are   
   > > > > > > > > all lined up as specified for a future war of MAJOR   
   proportions. There   
   > > > > > > > > is not much left to be fulfilled before Jesus comes in the air.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > War, not peace, is the norm for cities and states in ancient   
   times and   
   > > > > > > > even in the modern world. Any "signs" of Jesus' supposed return   
   have   
   > > > > > > > long since occurred, without any end of the world to go with   
   them.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Nope, for a prophecy to be fulfilled all aspects of it must   
   happen. Only   
   > > > > > > partial aspects that fit near the defined prophecy, will they   
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   > > > > > > those   
   > > > > > > that were aware, were not the actual fulfillment.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Presumably, Isaiah's "prophecy" was written before Damascus was   
   > > > > > rebuilt.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You have had that discussion with others about that prophecy, but you   
   > > > > dismissed the words of the Bible to accept a supposition of man who had   
   > > > > not   
   > > > > the ears to hear what was written.   
   > > >   
   > > > What was the name of the person with whom I supposedly had this   
   > > > discussion? I don’t recall who all, but it was only a few months back.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > For instance, if you see the city of Damascus totally   
   destroyed in one   
   > > > > > > > > night, as described in the Bible, I don’t see what else is   
   left   
   > > > > > > > > before   
   > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > Tribulation. Plus there is a viable chance that that is the   
   trigger.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Some scholars see the destruction of Damascus as a prophecy   
   which was   
   > > > > > > > fulfilled by the destruction of Damascus by Assyria in the 8th   
   century   
   > > > > > > > BCE. No "time of tribulation" in the modern world needed for any   
   of   
   > > > > > > > it.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Some mistaken ones did, no doubt, but the prophecy never occurred   
   to the   
   > > > > > > full   
   > > > > > > discription of it such as to it was fully there when night fell   
   and the   
   > > > > > > next   
   > > > > > > morning it was gone, plus it will never be inhabited again was not   
   > > > > > > fulfilled.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So where does the Bible say that Damascus would never be rebuilt, or   
   > > > > > that it fell over night?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You were given those scriptures before, would there be any difference   
   if   
   > > > > you   
   > > > > heard them again?   
   > > >   
   > > > When did that supposedly happen?   
   > >   
   > > They were mentioned as you were arguing about them.   
   >   
   > As I was arguing about them? You said it had happened *before* that!   
      
   Your arguing has been the same for decades. All during that time you were   
   shown things you totally dismissed, at least publicly.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > Aren’t you diametrically opposed to the Bible, what it is   
   > > > > and what it stands for. the Bible is for understanding, not a point of   
   > > > > argument.   
   > > >   
   > > > I'm opposed to people not properly understanding the Bible, which is   
   > > > true about most Christians.   
   > >   
   > > Interesting, and why would you declare such a thing?   
   >   
   > Maybe I wasn't clear enough: Most Christians don't understand the   
   > Bible properly -- that's what I'm opposed to. An example would be   
   > Jesus predicting that his generation would see his return after his   
   > death -- Christians twist that to mean it wasn't the *generation* that   
   > would see it, but he Jewish *race* that would see it.   
      
   It was spoken to the Jews at that time, and about the definition in use at   
   that time.   
   Those who cared to know would find out and learn. Of course, a believer could   
   just ask God and the spirit of God would lead them to the truth so that they   
   might see and understand.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > See how that does violence to Scripture, in the name of conservative   
   > exegesis?   
      
   Speak in plain English please.   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)