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   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/15/2025 12:32 PM, jojo wrote:   
   > Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >> On 9/13/2025 9:35 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>> On 9/13/2025 2:09 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>> jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:34 PM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<7eda1708-   
   >>>>>>>>> e6d3-9729-9571-07b6d26f6447@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, jojo wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID:<06a0238b-feb9-9555-   
   >>>>>>>>>>> dd59-2b9bffd6e3a0@shinku.aoyagi.konjou>):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Dawn Flood wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 11:43 AM, jojo wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> None wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 12, 2025, Dawn Flood wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: <10a1e6t$3jm3q$2@dont-email.me>):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2025 7:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None   wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:10a081v$366mu$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> None   wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109vbc8$2tbin$1@dont-email.me:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2025, Mitchell Holman wrote   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Message-ID: ):   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Andrew"  wrote in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:rKAwQ.12261$7F4e.8283@fx05.ams4:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Dawn Flood" wrote in message   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:109tfa4$29gbi$1@dont-email.me...   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To sum-up, paleoanthropology is a valid science,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Major universities exist which offer doctoral   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees in   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) The US National Academy of Sciences has admitted   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropologists to its ranks.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Peer-reviewed research journals exist for   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4) Few, if any, scientists dispute the fact that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> paleoanthropology is a valid science.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In spite of all that you say above, it is noted that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are at a complete loss of words when I ask   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to tell us about any specific paleo-   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anthropological   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discovery that shows that they have enlightened   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us about ~anything~...in your own words.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you are a "complete loss of words"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to tell us the age of the earth, or even   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us your opinion of it.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The earth as you know it was not until it was called   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earth on the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3rd day of this realm. The planets stars, etc were not   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> until the   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4th day of this realm. All this occurred around 6,000   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years ago. In   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literal time, not figurative nor theoretical.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6,000?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do you determine that date?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What date? I mentioned time approximate.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, "time approximate"   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why 6000 years?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What happened then?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And are their so called ""discoveries"" built upon   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific method, or are they built upon fantasy?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who want the truth do not accept stories that   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are built upon fantasy.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Christian: Someone who believes   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in dragons, unicorns, talking snakes and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmutation (all mentioned in the Bible)   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but accuses those citing scientific data   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of "indulging in fantasies".   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I do not fit your daffynition.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific data only recounts what is reversed   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engineered, and from   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that understanding, some try to create variations based   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the same   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things that always existed in the time of man, reshape,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reuse,   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and most generally it all contaminates the earth and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> environment.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What other data is there to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> measure time but scientific data?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The universe expands at a known   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rate, the continents move at a   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rate, starlight reaches our   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eyes at a known rate. If those   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known rates are wrong what rates   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are right?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the continents moved at a known rate then there   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be no   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earthquakes. All volcanos would erupt and known cycles   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> explosive   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rates.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If such massive errors are made then what credibility   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest of   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your statement have.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Science has recently recognized another light form, one   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that was   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoken of near 5,000 years ago + or - and they have   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet to   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> determine   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its parameters.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where was this "spoken of" 5000 years ago?   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   
      
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