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   >> Christians bend over backward to get the definition they want to use.   
   >   
   >Some so-called christians do that, even the prideful ones. And the lazy ones   
   >us AI,   
      
   So you agree that Jesus thought he would return during the lifetime of   
   his listeners?   
      
   >When they do so they are not listening to God, don’t care about what He   
   >thinks., and a variety of other reasons.   
   >   
   >> > Those who cared to know would find out and learn. Of course, a believer   
   >> > could   
   >> > just ask God and the spirit of God would lead them to the truth so that   
   they   
   >> > might see and understand.   
   >>   
   >> What does that have to do with Jesus predicting his return within the   
   >> lifetime of his followers?   
   >   
   >So mankind would know the time period. A last call understanding. The big one   
   >that ties into that is the prophecy of Joel that Peter announced at the   
   >beginning.   
      
   That time period provided for "mankind" was clearly wrong, though.   
   What prophets have arisen in what you believe to be the last days?   
      
   >> > > See how that does violence to Scripture, in the name of conservative   
   >> > > exegesis?   
   >> >   
   >> > Speak in plain English please.   
   >>   
   >> "Violence to Scripture" just means interpreting it in a way that's at   
   >> odds with its plain meaning, usually for some kind of personal gain.   
   >>   
   >> "Conservative" just means you favor traditional interpretations of the   
   >> Bible over more modern and often secular interpretations of it.   
   >>   
   >> "Exegesis" just means the process of interpreting and analyzing the   
   >> Bible to better understand what it's saying.   
   >   
   >That is the word I was asking about.   
      
   So it was the word "exegesis" that you didn't know.   
      
   >It is the not what Jesus spoke about and is most typically the way of carnal   
   >men.   
   >It is also the way of atheist theologians.   
      
   As long as they think clearly, they're doing well, and their   
   description ("atheist theologians") is not an oxymoron.   
      
   >God speaks to the heart of man As Jesus promised for those that believe in   
   >Him and walk according to his ways.   
      
   What would limit him to "the heart"?   
      
   >He also calls to those that are lost, those that seek eternal life.   
      
   Why couldn't he call those who don't seek eternal life?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)