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   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 9/22/2025 5:20 AM, Andrew wrote:   
   > "Kenito Benito" wrote in message   
   > news:r5v1dk1csp271mug5tskjjoijvv0bbpgf4@4ax.com...   
   >> "Andrew" wrote:   
   >>   
   >> [...]   
   >>   
   >>>>> After they arrested Jesus they brought Him to the Roman governor of   
   >>>>> Judaea, Pontius Pilate. They   
   >>>>> even had to wake him up.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Pontius Pilate was from the Samnite clan of the Pontii.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> So it wasn't the Romans, but the Jewish leaders   
   >>>>> who officially rejected Him, and demanded for   
   >>>>> Him to be crucified.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>     Crucifixion was the method of execution used by the Romans.   
   >>>> Jewish leaders would have lobbied for stoning. The Bible only states   
   >>>> the Jews wanted Jesus killed. Since crucifixion was the method used by   
   >>>> the Romans at the time for certain offences, that was the method used.   
   >>>> The Jews had little say in the method of punishment used.   
   >>>   
   >>> Yes, but the Jews vehemently petitioned Pilate, specifically for Him   
   >>> to be crucified.   
   >>>   
   >>> "Pilate therefore, willing to release Jesus, spake again to   
   >>> them. But they cried, saying, Crucify him, crucify him."   
   >>>                               ~ Luke 23:20 -21   
   >>   
   >>    Due to it being the method of execution Rome    used for such crimes.   
   >   
   > Why do you think they hated Him so vehemently?   
   >   
      
   The Romans didn't hate Jesus, nor did the Jews.  Jesus, his followers   
   and the Jews (but, not the Romans) all believed that our World was flat,   
   and Jesus was an apocalyptic preacher who taught that the "Son of Man",   
   an angelic being, would come down from Heaven and vanquish the Romans.   
   When Jesus showed-up in the Temple with his message, he got arrested and   
   thrown into the "Roman tank".  He was examined, deemed guilty of   
   sedition against the Empire, and Pilate gave the order.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)