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   > > Even his disciples questioned him about that, so deeply was it engrained   
   > > into their culture. But the Jews did not recognize officially that he was   
   to be   
   > > killed first as a sacrifice for their sins. That he would also have   
   followers   
   > > who were not jews. Even though that was written about in many books in the   
   > > OT. They were just looking or focused on the ending that would set them up   
   > > as a ruling nation.   
   > >   
   > > As such today many christians reflect the attitudes and thoughts of those   
   > > Jew in that day. And like them they religiously follow the teachings of   
   Jesus   
   > > Christ, but not with their hearts, only with their minds. So just like them   
   > > they see, but do not see.   
   > >   
   > > There will be and it is already present, a persecution of Believers in   
   Jesus,   
   > > by religious peoples. Part of the participants against them will be and   
   > > quietly is already happening by the so-called ‘christians’ who despise   
   > > those people in whom the Spirit of the Almighty God resides.Especially   
   those   
   > > through whom the gifts of Gods Spirit operates. In coming days that will   
   > > greatly intensify, as predicted in the Bible as well.   
   > >   
   > > I am stopping at this point as this is most likely more than many can bear   
   at   
   > > this time. I will keep the door open for a while, since you all keep   
   posting   
   > > in the ‘christian’ NG’s but solely for purposes of open discussion   
   and   
   > > not for character assassinations.   
   >   
   > You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last screed and   
   > not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.religion.christian if   
   > alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
      
   Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there insist. Yet you all   
   insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have been posting   
   lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not to cross post in   
   an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
      
   I do not know if Andrew originated the cross post of not. And he really   
   shouldn’t.. Paul the apostle is a good example of that, as he debated those   
   who were against God in their own temples and places of discourse. He did not   
   drag them to a place of worship to God, or to a temple of God, to argue and   
   debate. He only stopped doing that, depending of the location when those he   
   debated could no longer reasonably debate and sought to kill him because of   
   his testimony, works of God, and as a result of his teachings drew many away   
   from their false gods and saw their income decreasing. Meaning the meat   
   markets that sold meat that was offered as a sacrifice to their gods, the   
   lack of sales of their images of their false gods as well as their charms,   
   incenses, etc.   
      
   If the christians did not enter your NG’s at any time, your group would   
   close down within a year for there would be nothing for you all to talk   
   about. ;)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)