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   >> > over the people. The High priests worked with the roman government within   
   >> > their rules for the most part and the High Priests were given a squadron   
   of   
   >> > soldiers to use as they deemed necessary to keep the people in line under   
   >> > mosaic laws, and other purposes within the confines of Roman law. Yet many   
   >> > of   
   >> > the Jews sought their freedom and were rebellious, for good reasons, but   
   >> > were   
   >> > not strong enough to fight the empire successfully.   
   >> >   
   >> > Death penalties were under the purview of the Romans. There was a custom   
   for   
   >> > that worked out with the Jews whereby a person could be set free, that   
   they   
   >> > all abided by, and this was done to keep the lid on the Jews yet with a   
   >> > vent.   
   >> >   
   >> > The Jews, as taught by the prophets of God, in the days of old taught of   
   the   
   >> > messiah that was to come. Yet many were focused solely on the promise that   
   >> > God, through the Messiah would set up Israel as their ruler, and as such,   
   he   
   >> > would rule over all the nations of the world, with power and authority.   
   Thus   
   >> > they would be sitting in a prestigious place, and for that they were   
   >> > looking.   
   >> >   
   >> > Even his disciples questioned him about that, so deeply was it engrained   
   >> > into their culture. But the Jews did not recognize officially that he was   
   to be   
   >> > killed first as a sacrifice for their sins. That he would also have   
   followers   
   >> > who were not jews. Even though that was written about in many books in the   
   >> > OT. They were just looking or focused on the ending that would set them up   
   >> > as a ruling nation.   
   >> >   
   >> > As such today many christians reflect the attitudes and thoughts of those   
   >> > Jew in that day. And like them they religiously follow the teachings of   
   Jesus   
   >> > Christ, but not with their hearts, only with their minds. So just like   
   them   
   >> > they see, but do not see.   
   >> >   
   >> > There will be and it is already present, a persecution of Believers in   
   Jesus,   
   >> > by religious peoples. Part of the participants against them will be and   
   >> > quietly is already happening by the so-called ‘christians’ who despise   
   >> > those people in whom the Spirit of the Almighty God resides.Especially   
   those   
   >> > through whom the gifts of Gods Spirit operates. In coming days that will   
   >> > greatly intensify, as predicted in the Bible as well.   
   >> >   
   >> > I am stopping at this point as this is most likely more than many can   
   bear at   
   >> > this time. I will keep the door open for a while, since you all keep   
   posting   
   >> > in the ‘christian’ NG’s but solely for purposes of open discussion and   
   >> > not for character assassinations.   
   >>   
   >> You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last screed and   
   >> not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.religion.christian if   
   >> alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
   >   
   >Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there insist. Yet you all   
   >insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have been posting   
   >lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not to cross post in   
   >an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
      
   I didn't add a.r.c.  I only post to theist newsgroups when they post   
   to alt.atheism.   
      
   >I do not know if Andrew originated the cross post of not. And he really   
   >shouldn’t.. Paul the apostle is a good example of that, as he debated those   
   >who were against God in their own temples and places of discourse. He did not   
   >drag them to a place of worship to God, or to a temple of God, to argue and   
   >debate. He only stopped doing that, depending of the location when those he   
   >debated could no longer reasonably debate and sought to kill him because of   
   >his testimony, works of God, and as a result of his teachings drew many away   
   >from their false gods and saw their income decreasing. Meaning the meat   
   >markets that sold meat that was offered as a sacrifice to their gods, the   
   >lack of sales of their images of their false gods as well as their charms,   
   >incenses, etc.   
      
   And you don't think Paul was doing theology when he preached his   
   sermons?   
      
   >If the christians did not enter your NG’s at any time, your group would   
   >close down within a year for there would be nothing for you all to talk   
   >about. ;)   
      
   Wherever there's intelligent opinions around, there will be things to   
   talk about. But I thought you were complaining about atheists posting   
   in your newsgroups, not making a plea for the inclusion of theist   
   posts in alt.atheism.   
      
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