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   >> > I know, as well as you, that many people believe that whether they be   
   >> > Christian or not.   
   >> > And that does not make me a liar. I also know that you, just like the well   
   >> > known atheists leaders, who were given enough time to die on a deathbed   
   >> > realized their mistake yet most felt they fully deserved the end result as   
   >> > described in the Bible and few very few humbled themselves before God and   
   >> > sought His Mercy.   
   >>   
   >> So if you're not a liar, I have to ask, Why the lie? And didn't you   
   >> post a video about atheists on their deathbeds that was debunked by   
   >> several atheists here in alt.atheism?   
   >   
   >Nope. Since what links I did give gave eyewitness accounts that no one in   
   >your group could possibly dismiss truthfully.   
      
   Maybe it was Andrew that posted it.  I'm sure we've discussed   
   recently, though.   
      
   >> > > > I have also mentioned here, many, many times that I have personal   
   >> > > > knowledge   
   >> > > > and understandings of God, even if they are limited greatly due to the   
   >> > > > fact   
   >> > > > that I have had a personal experiential relationship with Him and   
   thereby   
   >> > > > know the reality of who He is, and that HE exists. Which you very well   
   >> > > > know   
   >> > > > and choose to mock on a personal basis, so as to excuse your choice to   
   >> > > > disbelieve and follow the lead of your god, Lucifer. Even though you   
   do   
   >> > > > not   
   >> > > > know him, yet the thoughts he implants in your head and deceives you   
   with,   
   >> > > > you chose to speak.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Thoughts being implanted into heads is craziness.   
   >> >   
   >> > Then you accept the thinking that you are crazed?   
   >> > This is why the bible said one should control the thoughts before acting.   
   >>   
   >> Umm... no, I don't believe in thoughts being implanted. That's you   
   >> that believes that!   
   >   
   >It will not me long until you have a rude awakening and recognize that you   
   >had a thought that was not your own perhaps noticeably different than what   
   >you would normally have within your normal character.   
      
   Not long until?  What's wrong with now?   
      
   >> > > > > You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last screed and   
   >> > > > > not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.religion.christian if   
   >> > > > > alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there insist. Yet   
   you   
   >> > > > all   
   >> > > > insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have been   
   posting   
   >> > > > lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not to cross   
   post   
   >> > > > in   
   >> > > > an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > I didn't add a.r.c. I only post to theist newsgroups when they post   
   >> > > to alt.atheism.   
   >> >   
   >> > You knew this thread originated there, and bear/sharing the blame for not   
   >> > trimming the NG’s/   
   >>   
   >> I don't trim them, because I believe people should be able to see the   
   >> reactions to what they see posted in their own newsgroups.   
   >   
   >OH? So you think you know from where peoples comments originate?   
      
   I know what groups it's being read in, which serves the purpose.   
      
   >> > > > I do not know if Andrew originated the cross post of not. And he   
   really   
   >> > > > shouldn’t.. Paul the apostle is a good example of that, as he debated   
   >> > > > those   
   >> > > > who were against God in their own temples and places of discourse. He   
   did   
   >> > > > not   
   >> > > > drag them to a place of worship to God, or to a temple of God, to   
   argue   
   >> > > > and   
   >> > > > debate. He only stopped doing that, depending of the location when   
   those   
   >> > > > he   
   >> > > > debated could no longer reasonably debate and sought to kill him   
   because   
   >> > > > of   
   >> > > > his testimony, works of God, and as a result of his teachings drew   
   many   
   >> > > > away   
   >> > > > from their false gods and saw their income decreasing. Meaning the   
   meat   
   >> > > > markets that sold meat that was offered as a sacrifice to their gods,   
   the   
   >> > > > lack of sales of their images of their false gods as well as their   
   charms,   
   >> > > > incenses, etc.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > And you don't think Paul was doing theology when he preached his   
   >> > > sermons?   
   >> >   
   >> > Nope. In those days it was called and was a full part of philosophy, and   
   he   
   >> > was well trained in that by one of the masters of that day. Yet he taught   
   >> > Jesus Christ an him crucified, and made a point about speaking and   
   teaching   
   >> > clear and plainly with simple words, and allowing the power of God to be   
   >> > made   
   >> > manifest so that people would believe in God and not Paul and his words.   
   IOW   
   >> > he humbled himself before men and God so that the Glory of God might shine   
   >> > through.   
   >>   
   >> Once you begin to ask why anyone should be concerned about Christ   
   >> crucified, you're down the rabbit hole into theology.   
   >   
   >Only because you follow a certain theological understanding. It is a box that   
   >you put other into, including yourself so as to know in your mind how to   
   >react to them. And you cannot think outside of the box as you are not   
   >permitted to do so.   
      
   No,  I don't follow any theological understanding.  I'm an atheist,   
   after all.   
      
   >> > > > If the christians did not enter your NG’s at any time, your group   
   would   
   >> > > > close down within a year for there would be nothing for you all to   
   talk   
   >> > > > about. ;)   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Wherever there's intelligent opinions around, there will be things to   
   >> > > talk about. But I thought you were complaining about atheists posting   
   >> > > in your newsgroups, not making a plea for the inclusion of theist   
   >> > > posts in alt.atheism.   
   >> >   
   >> > Obviously you did not understand. Especially the concept of the thought.   
   >>   
   >> What's so difficult about the "concept of thought"? Or are you lying   
   >> again?   
   >   
   >Is that really the best you can do? Your comment belies your ability to   
   >understand. ;)   
      
   Thought is what you create with your mind.  How's that?   
      
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