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   > > > > Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be   
   a   
   > > > > Christian.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Act 26:29 And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but also   
   all   
   > > > > that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I am,   
   > > > > except these bonds.   
   > > >   
   > > > So?   
   > >   
   > > It was part of an answer that you requested.   
   >   
   > When did I ever request anything like that?   
      
   If you were to pour over this thread, perhaps going back in time a few days   
   ago when I responded with the info then you might see it. But I understand   
   from you that you are against going over things to see and understand, even   
   if it is what you wrote. And since you constantly break up paragraphs into   
   sound bites in order to tear thought continuity apart, it is difficult to   
   carry on any meaningful conversation with you as you lose even your own train   
   of thought.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > Scripture also speaks from the perspective of the Romans who found   
   no   
   > > > > > > fault   
   > > > > > > in him. No sedition, nothing. Also verified from Roman history   
   which   
   > > > > > > many   
   > > > > > > try to discredit so as to destroy the truth for an anti-Jesus   
   narrative.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > The Romans knew what a Messiah was supposed to do. They decided to   
   > > > > > nip it in the bud before things got worse.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Nope. Although there was one local ruler In Judea that was of that   
   > > > > mindset,   
   > > > > and killed every child and baby under the age of 2 for miles around for   
   > > > > fear   
   > > > > he would lose his rulership. And went down in history noted for that   
   deed.   
   > > >   
   > > > You're talking about Herod the Great. It would've been characteristic   
   > > > of him to do something like that, but he probably never did, for a   
   > > > variety of reasons.   
   > >   
   > > Pure conjecture on your part. But he earned a nickname because of what he   
   > > did, that no doubt many have heard but did not understand why he was known   
   > > by that.   
   >   
   > From   
   >   
   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents   
   >   
   > "The historicity of the Matthew account is not accepted by modern   
   > sources.[7][2][8] The story of the massacre is found in no gospel   
   > other than Matthew, nor is it mentioned in the surviving works of   
   > Nicolaus of Damascus (who was a personal friend of Herod the Great),   
   > nor in Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews, despite his recording many   
   > of Herod's misdeeds, including the murder of three of his own sons.[9]   
   > The early 5th-century account of Macrobius—that "on hearing that the   
   > son of Herod, king of the Jews, had been slain when Herod ordered that   
   > all boys in Syria under the age of two be killed, [Augustus] said,   
   > 'It's better to be Herod's pig than his son'"—has been discounted as   
   > extra-biblical evidence for the event due to its later authorship,   
   > possible influence by the gospel narrative, and the confused nature of   
   > the account.[10] In view of the lack of independent confirmation that   
   > the event occurred, the story acts as a kind of folklore inspired by   
   > Herod's reputation.[8] As a matter of understanding what the myth is   
   > trying to communicate, its lack of historicity is unsurprising given   
   > that gospels were primarily written as theological documents rather   
   > than chronological timelines.[11][12][13][14]"   
      
   Odd that they recount the historic evidences of it, yet deny its existence.   
   Herod's personal friends were that only as long as they agreed with him. And   
   what you also quoted showed the ridiculous nature of this article. boys in   
   Syria under the age of two be killed, [Augustus] said, 'It's better to be   
   Herod's pig than his son’"   
      
   Even you should have been astute enough to catch that grievous error, unless   
   like in other areas you always accept what seems to fit your agenda, and deny   
   all else.   
      
   >   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > You also learned these things when you were young, So what’s   
   with   
   > > > > > > > > these lies?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Look, liar, you know it's stupid to place too much historical   
   weight   
   > > > > > > > on the legends and stories in the gospels, and yet you continue   
   to do   
   > > > > > > > it. Why is that?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Liar? What did I lie about?   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > You lied by acting as if other people accept the Bible as being   
   > > > > > authoritative, which isn't true, as you must surely know by now.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > I know, as well as you, that many people believe that whether they be   
   > > > > Christian or not.   
   > > > > And that does not make me a liar. I also know that you, just like the   
   well   
   > > > > known atheists leaders, who were given enough time to die on a deathbed   
   > > > > realized their mistake yet most felt they fully deserved the end   
   result as   
   > > > > described in the Bible and few very few humbled themselves before God   
   and   
   > > > > sought His Mercy.   
   > > >   
   > > > So if you're not a liar, I have to ask, Why the lie? And didn't you   
   > > > post a video about atheists on their deathbeds that was debunked by   
   > > > several atheists here in alt.atheism?   
   > >   
   > > Nope. Since what links I did give gave eyewitness accounts that no one in   
   > > your group could possibly dismiss truthfully.   
   >   
   > Maybe it was Andrew that posted it. I'm sure we've discussed   
   > recently, though.   
   >   
   > > > > > > I have also mentioned here, many, many times that I have personal   
   > > > > > > knowledge   
   > > > > > > and understandings of God, even if they are limited greatly due to   
   the   
   > > > > > > fact   
   > > > > > > that I have had a personal experiential relationship with Him and   
   > > > > > > thereby   
   > > > > > > know the reality of who He is, and that HE exists. Which you very   
   well   
   > > > > > > know   
   > > > > > > and choose to mock on a personal basis, so as to excuse your   
   choice to   
   > > > > > > disbelieve and follow the lead of your god, Lucifer. Even though   
   you do   
   > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > know him, yet the thoughts he implants in your head and deceives   
   you   
   > > > > > > with,   
   > > > > > > you chose to speak.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Thoughts being implanted into heads is craziness.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Then you accept the thinking that you are crazed?   
   > > > > This is why the bible said one should control the thoughts before   
   acting.   
   > > >   
   > > > Umm... no, I don't believe in thoughts being implanted. That's you   
   > > > that believes that!   
   > >   
   > > It will not be long until you have a rude awakening and recognize that you   
   > > had a thought that was not your own perhaps noticeably different than what   
   > > you would normally have within your normal character.   
   >   
   > Not long until? What's wrong with now?   
      
   There is a time and a place for everything.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last screed   
   and   
   > > > > > > > not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.religion.christian if   
   > > > > > > > alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there insist.   
   Yet you   
   > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have been   
   posting   
   > > > > > > lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not to   
   cross   
   > > > > > > post   
   > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I didn't add a.r.c. I only post to theist newsgroups when they post   
   > > > > > to alt.atheism.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You knew this thread originated there, and bear/sharing the blame for   
   not   
   > > > > trimming the NG’s/   
   > > >   
      
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