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   >> > > > described in the Bible and few very few humbled themselves before God   
   and   
   >> > > > sought His Mercy.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > So if you're not a liar, I have to ask, Why the lie? And didn't you   
   >> > > post a video about atheists on their deathbeds that was debunked by   
   >> > > several atheists here in alt.atheism?   
   >> >   
   >> > Nope. Since what links I did give gave eyewitness accounts that no one in   
   >> > your group could possibly dismiss truthfully.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe it was Andrew that posted it. I'm sure we've discussed   
   >> recently, though.   
   >>   
   >> > > > > > I have also mentioned here, many, many times that I have personal   
   >> > > > > > knowledge   
   >> > > > > > and understandings of God, even if they are limited greatly due   
   to the   
   >> > > > > > fact   
   >> > > > > > that I have had a personal experiential relationship with Him and   
   >> > > > > > thereby   
   >> > > > > > know the reality of who He is, and that HE exists. Which you very   
   well   
   >> > > > > > know   
   >> > > > > > and choose to mock on a personal basis, so as to excuse your   
   choice to   
   >> > > > > > disbelieve and follow the lead of your god, Lucifer. Even though   
   you do   
   >> > > > > > not   
   >> > > > > > know him, yet the thoughts he implants in your head and deceives   
   you   
   >> > > > > > with,   
   >> > > > > > you chose to speak.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Thoughts being implanted into heads is craziness.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Then you accept the thinking that you are crazed?   
   >> > > > This is why the bible said one should control the thoughts before   
   acting.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Umm... no, I don't believe in thoughts being implanted. That's you   
   >> > > that believes that!   
   >> >   
   >> > It will not be long until you have a rude awakening and recognize that you   
   >> > had a thought that was not your own perhaps noticeably different than what   
   >> > you would normally have within your normal character.   
   >>   
   >> Not long until? What's wrong with now?   
   >   
   >There is a time and a place for everything.   
      
   And the time for a rude awakening is now.   
      
   >> > > > > > > You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last   
   screed and   
   >> > > > > > > not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.religion.christian if   
   >> > > > > > > alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there insist.   
   Yet you   
   >> > > > > > all   
   >> > > > > > insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have been   
   posting   
   >> > > > > > lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not to   
   cross   
   >> > > > > > post   
   >> > > > > > in   
   >> > > > > > an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > I didn't add a.r.c. I only post to theist newsgroups when they post   
   >> > > > > to alt.atheism.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > You knew this thread originated there, and bear/sharing the blame for   
   not   
   >> > > > trimming the NG’s/   
   >> > >   
   >> > > I don't trim them, because I believe people should be able to see the   
   >> > > reactions to what they see posted in their own newsgroups.   
   >> >   
   >> > OH? So you think you know from where peoples comments originate?   
   >>   
   >> I know what groups it's being read in, which serves the purpose.   
   >   
   >And you know that how?   
      
   How do I know what?   
      
   >> > > > > > I do not know if Andrew originated the cross post of not. And he   
   really   
   >> > > > > > shouldn’t.. Paul the apostle is a good example of that, as he   
   debated   
   >> > > > > > those   
   >> > > > > > who were against God in their own temples and places of   
   discourse. He   
   >> > > > > > did   
   >> > > > > > not   
   >> > > > > > drag them to a place of worship to God, or to a temple of God, to   
   argue   
   >> > > > > > and   
   >> > > > > > debate. He only stopped doing that, depending of the location   
   when those   
   >> > > > > > he   
   >> > > > > > debated could no longer reasonably debate and sought to kill him   
   because   
   >> > > > > > of   
   >> > > > > > his testimony, works of God, and as a result of his teachings   
   drew many   
   >> > > > > > away   
   >> > > > > > from their false gods and saw their income decreasing. Meaning   
   the meat   
   >> > > > > > markets that sold meat that was offered as a sacrifice to their   
   gods,   
   >> > > > > > the   
   >> > > > > > lack of sales of their images of their false gods as well as their   
   >> > > > > > charms,   
   >> > > > > > incenses, etc.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > And you don't think Paul was doing theology when he preached his   
   >> > > > > sermons?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Nope. In those days it was called and was a full part of philosophy,   
   and   
   >> > > > he   
   >> > > > was well trained in that by one of the masters of that day. Yet he   
   taught   
   >> > > > Jesus Christ an him crucified, and made a point about speaking and   
   >> > > > teaching   
   >> > > > clear and plainly with simple words, and allowing the power of God to   
   be   
   >> > > > made   
   >> > > > manifest so that people would believe in God and not Paul and his   
   words.   
   >> > > > IOW   
   >> > > > he humbled himself before men and God so that the Glory of God might   
   shine   
   >> > > > through.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Once you begin to ask why anyone should be concerned about Christ   
   >> > > crucified, you're down the rabbit hole into theology.   
   >> >   
   >> > Only because you follow a certain theological understanding. It is a box   
   >> > that   
   >> > you put other into, including yourself so as to know in your mind how to   
   >> > react to them. And you cannot think outside of the box as you are not   
   >> > permitted to do so.   
   >>   
   >> No, I don't follow any theological understanding. I'm an atheist,   
   >> after all.   
   >   
   >Yet you have your own theology and religion, bearing in mind all the things   
   >you people have said, and stick to at least in front of others in your   
   >church/group. Your favorite mantras, dogma’s etc.   
      
   Any examples of these "mantras and dogmas"?   
      
   >> > > > > > If the christians did not enter your NG’s at any time, your group   
   >> > > > > > would   
   >> > > > > > close down within a year for there would be nothing for you all   
   to talk   
   >> > > > > > about. ;)   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Wherever there's intelligent opinions around, there will be things   
   to   
   >> > > > > talk about. But I thought you were complaining about atheists   
   posting   
   >> > > > > in your newsgroups, not making a plea for the inclusion of theist   
   >> > > > > posts in alt.atheism.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Obviously you did not understand. Especially the concept of the   
   thought.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > What's so difficult about the "concept of thought"? Or are you lying   
   >> > > again?   
   >> >   
   >> > Is that really the best you can do? Your comment belies your ability to   
   >> > understand. ;)   
   >>   
   >> Thought is what you create with your mind. How's that?   
   >   
   >Pretty poor, to be perfectly honest with you, shallow.   
      
   What's shallow about it?   
      
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