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   Jesus said to cast all your cares upon Him. And he will direct your path,   
   plus a whole lot more things for those who place their difficulties into His   
   hands, expecting. Unless you have gone through times where there is nowhere   
   else to turn, you might never know what that is and how God works and   
   intervenes for His Children. Those that are born by Him, aka Born Again. I   
   have been there, done that, and I had peace when it seemed as if everything I   
   cared about was failing. I’ve learned of other who have gone through   
   similar or seeming worse things that did I, and we all have one thing in   
   common that came out of it. Faith! A rock solid Belief in God. Via   
   experiences. Trust, confidence, Joy, peace, and an open door of communication   
   with our Heavenly Father. None of it bound by religion.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me   
   to be a   
   > > > > > > Christian.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Act 26:29 And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou, but   
   also   
   > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such as I   
   am,   
   > > > > > > except these bonds.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It was part of an answer that you requested.   
   > > >   
   > > > When did I ever request anything like that?   
   > >   
   > > If you were to pour over this thread, perhaps going back in time a few days   
   > > ago when I responded with the info then you might see it. But I understand   
   > > from you that you are against going over things to see and understand, even   
   > > if it is what you wrote. And since you constantly break up paragraphs into   
   > > sound bites in order to tear thought continuity apart, it is difficult to   
   > > carry on any meaningful conversation with you as you lose even your own   
   > > train   
   > > of thought.   
   >   
   > That's "pore" over, not "pour over". And I only break up paragraphs   
   > when you have them broken up first.   
      
   That is not true and your posts reflect it. Spelling flames? Lol.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > Scripture also speaks from the perspective of the Romans who   
   found no   
   > > > > > > > > fault   
   > > > > > > > > in him. No sedition, nothing. Also verified from Roman history   
   which   
   > > > > > > > > many   
   > > > > > > > > try to discredit so as to destroy the truth for an anti-Jesus   
   > > > > > > > > narrative.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > The Romans knew what a Messiah was supposed to do. They decided   
   to   
   > > > > > > > nip it in the bud before things got worse.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Nope. Although there was one local ruler In Judea that was of that   
   > > > > > > mindset,   
   > > > > > > and killed every child and baby under the age of 2 for miles   
   around for   
   > > > > > > fear   
   > > > > > > he would lose his rulership. And went down in history noted for   
   that   
   > > > > > > deed.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > You're talking about Herod the Great. It would've been characteristic   
   > > > > > of him to do something like that, but he probably never did, for a   
   > > > > > variety of reasons.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Pure conjecture on your part. But he earned a nickname because of what   
   he   
   > > > > did, that no doubt many have heard but did not understand why he was   
   known   
   > > > > by that.   
   > > >   
   > > > From   
   > > >   
   > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents   
   > > >   
   > > > "The historicity of the Matthew account is not accepted by modern   
   > > > sources.[7][2][8] The story of the massacre is found in no gospel   
   > > > other than Matthew, nor is it mentioned in the surviving works of   
   > > > Nicolaus of Damascus (who was a personal friend of Herod the Great),   
   > > > nor in Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews, despite his recording many   
   > > > of Herod's misdeeds, including the murder of three of his own sons.[9]   
   > > > The early 5th-century account of Macrobius—that "on hearing that the   
   > > > son of Herod, king of the Jews, had been slain when Herod ordered that   
   > > > all boys in Syria under the age of two be killed, [Augustus] said,   
   > > > 'It's better to be Herod's pig than his son'"—has been discounted as   
   > > > extra-biblical evidence for the event due to its later authorship,   
   > > > possible influence by the gospel narrative, and the confused nature of   
   > > > the account.[10] In view of the lack of independent confirmation that   
   > > > the event occurred, the story acts as a kind of folklore inspired by   
   > > > Herod's reputation.[8] As a matter of understanding what the myth is   
   > > > trying to communicate, its lack of historicity is unsurprising given   
   > > > that gospels were primarily written as theological documents rather   
   > > > than chronological timelines.[11][12][13][14]"   
   > >   
   > > Odd that they recount the historic evidences of it, yet deny its existence.   
   > > Herod's personal friends were that only as long as they agreed with him.   
   And   
   > > what you also quoted showed the ridiculous nature of this article. boys in   
   > > Syria under the age of two be killed, [Augustus] said, 'It's better to be   
   > > Herod's pig than his son’"   
   >   
   > Which has nothing to do with the supposed massacre of the infants. Did   
   > you read about how it wasn't mentioned in Nicolaus of Damascus, the   
   > non-Matthean gospels, or Josephus?   
      
   You said you read the whole bible, Was Jesus born in Syria? Was Jerusalem   
   located in Syria?   
   >   
   >   
   > > Even you should have been astute enough to catch that grievous error,   
   unless   
   > > like in other areas you always accept what seems to fit your agenda, and   
   > > deny all else.   
   >   
   > There was no grievous error, except on your part. Your agenda is   
   > blinding you to that.   
      
   There sure was. And you did not catch it. Your agenda blinded you to what you   
   read. You focused on things that fit your narrative.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > > You also learned these things when you were young, So   
   what’s with   
   > > > > > > > > > > these lies?   
   > > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > > Look, liar, you know it's stupid to place too much   
   historical weight   
   > > > > > > > > > on the legends and stories in the gospels, and yet you   
   continue to do   
   > > > > > > > > > it. Why is that?   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Liar? What did I lie about?   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > You lied by acting as if other people accept the Bible as being   
   > > > > > > > authoritative, which isn't true, as you must surely know by now.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > I know, as well as you, that many people believe that whether they   
   be   
   > > > > > > Christian or not.   
   > > > > > > And that does not make me a liar. I also know that you, just like   
   the   
   > > > > > > well   
   > > > > > > known atheists leaders, who were given enough time to die on a   
   deathbed   
   > > > > > > realized their mistake yet most felt they fully deserved the end   
   result   
   > > > > > > as   
   > > > > > > described in the Bible and few very few humbled themselves before   
   God   
   > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > sought His Mercy.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > So if you're not a liar, I have to ask, Why the lie? And didn't you   
   > > > > > post a video about atheists on their deathbeds that was debunked by   
   > > > > > several atheists here in alt.atheism?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Nope. Since what links I did give gave eyewitness accounts that no one   
   in   
   > > > > your group could possibly dismiss truthfully.   
   > > >   
   > > > Maybe it was Andrew that posted it. I'm sure we've discussed   
   > > > recently, though.   
   > > >   
   > > > > > > > > I have also mentioned here, many, many times that I have   
   personal   
   > > > > > > > > knowledge   
   > > > > > > > > and understandings of God, even if they are limited greatly   
   due to the   
   > > > > > > > > fact   
      
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