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   > > > > > > > > that I have had a personal experiential relationship with Him   
   and   
   > > > > > > > > thereby   
   > > > > > > > > know the reality of who He is, and that HE exists. Which you   
   very well   
   > > > > > > > > know   
   > > > > > > > > and choose to mock on a personal basis, so as to excuse your   
   choice to   
   > > > > > > > > disbelieve and follow the lead of your god, Lucifer. Even   
   though you   
   > > > > > > > > do   
   > > > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > > > know him, yet the thoughts he implants in your head and   
   deceives you   
   > > > > > > > > with,   
   > > > > > > > > you chose to speak.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Thoughts being implanted into heads is craziness.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Then you accept the thinking that you are crazed?   
   > > > > > > This is why the bible said one should control the thoughts before   
   > > > > > > acting.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Umm... no, I don't believe in thoughts being implanted. That's you   
   > > > > > that believes that!   
   > > > >   
   > > > > It will not be long until you have a rude awakening and recognize that   
   you   
   > > > > had a thought that was not your own perhaps noticeably different than   
   what   
   > > > > you would normally have within your normal character.   
   > > >   
   > > > Not long until? What's wrong with now?   
   > >   
   > > There is a time and a place for everything.   
   >   
   > And the time for a rude awakening is now.   
      
   God knows the timing.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > > You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last   
   screed and   
   > > > > > > > > > not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.rel   
   gion.christian if   
   > > > > > > > > > alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there   
   insist. Yet   
   > > > > > > > > you   
   > > > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > > > insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have   
   been   
   > > > > > > > > posting   
   > > > > > > > > lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not   
   to cross   
   > > > > > > > > post   
   > > > > > > > > in   
   > > > > > > > > an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > I didn't add a.r.c. I only post to theist newsgroups when they   
   post   
   > > > > > > > to alt.atheism.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > You knew this thread originated there, and bear/sharing the blame   
   for   
   > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > trimming the NG’s/   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > I don't trim them, because I believe people should be able to see the   
   > > > > > reactions to what they see posted in their own newsgroups.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > OH? So you think you know from where peoples comments originate?   
   > > >   
   > > > I know what groups it's being read in, which serves the purpose.   
   > >   
   > > And you know that how?   
   >   
   > How do I know what?   
      
   LOL,, already lost track in just four lines?   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > I do not know if Andrew originated the cross post of not. And   
   he   
   > > > > > > > > really   
   > > > > > > > > shouldn’t.. Paul the apostle is a good example of that, as he   
   > > > > > > > > debated   
   > > > > > > > > those   
   > > > > > > > > who were against God in their own temples and places of   
   discourse. He   
   > > > > > > > > did   
   > > > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > > > drag them to a place of worship to God, or to a temple of God,   
   to   
   > > > > > > > > argue   
   > > > > > > > > and   
   > > > > > > > > debate. He only stopped doing that, depending of the location   
   when   
   > > > > > > > > those   
   > > > > > > > > he   
   > > > > > > > > debated could no longer reasonably debate and sought to kill   
   him   
   > > > > > > > > because   
   > > > > > > > > of   
   > > > > > > > > his testimony, works of God, and as a result of his teachings   
   drew   
   > > > > > > > > many   
   > > > > > > > > away   
   > > > > > > > > from their false gods and saw their income decreasing. Meaning   
   the   
   > > > > > > > > meat   
   > > > > > > > > markets that sold meat that was offered as a sacrifice to   
   their gods,   
   > > > > > > > > the   
   > > > > > > > > lack of sales of their images of their false gods as well as   
   their   
   > > > > > > > > charms,   
   > > > > > > > > incenses, etc.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > And you don't think Paul was doing theology when he preached his   
   > > > > > > > sermons?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Nope. In those days it was called and was a full part of   
   philosophy, and   
   > > > > > > he   
   > > > > > > was well trained in that by one of the masters of that day. Yet he   
   > > > > > > taught   
   > > > > > > Jesus Christ an him crucified, and made a point about speaking and   
   > > > > > > teaching   
   > > > > > > clear and plainly with simple words, and allowing the power of God   
   to be   
   > > > > > > made   
   > > > > > > manifest so that people would believe in God and not Paul and his   
   words.   
   > > > > > > IOW   
   > > > > > > he humbled himself before men and God so that the Glory of God   
   might   
   > > > > > > shine   
   > > > > > > through.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > Once you begin to ask why anyone should be concerned about Christ   
   > > > > > crucified, you're down the rabbit hole into theology.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Only because you follow a certain theological understanding. It is a   
   box   
   > > > > that   
   > > > > you put other into, including yourself so as to know in your mind how   
   to   
   > > > > react to them. And you cannot think outside of the box as you are not   
   > > > > permitted to do so.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, I don't follow any theological understanding. I'm an atheist,   
   > > > after all.   
   > >   
   > > Yet you have your own theology and religion, bearing in mind all the things   
   > > you people have said, and stick to at least in front of others in your   
   > > church/group. Your favorite mantras, dogma’s etc.   
   >   
   > Any examples of these "mantras and dogmas"?   
      
   Yes, the aa posts are full of them.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > If the christians did not enter your NG’s at any time, your   
   group   
   > > > > > > > > would   
   > > > > > > > > close down within a year for there would be nothing for you   
   all to   
   > > > > > > > > talk   
   > > > > > > > > about. ;)   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > Wherever there's intelligent opinions around, there will be   
   things to   
   > > > > > > > talk about. But I thought you were complaining about atheists   
   posting   
   > > > > > > > in your newsgroups, not making a plea for the inclusion of theist   
   > > > > > > > posts in alt.atheism.   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > Obviously you did not understand. Especially the concept of the   
   thought.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > What's so difficult about the "concept of thought"? Or are you lying   
   > > > > > again?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Is that really the best you can do? Your comment belies your ability to   
   > > > > understand. ;)   
   > > >   
   > > > Thought is what you create with your mind. How's that?   
   > >   
   > > Pretty poor, to be perfectly honest with you, shallow.   
   >   
   > What's shallow about it?   
      
   I would rather not say, I was hoping you would reflect on it yourself.   
      
   Time for some massive snipping of text here or start a new thread since DNA   
   is no longer the subject.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)