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   > > met, for this is applicable for the that tasted the good things of God, as   
   > > His power, and then chose to walk away. Jesus also spoke on prodigal sons   
   > > and   
   > > how they are welcomed back, should they return before their death.   
   >   
   > What makes you think I wasn't raised as a Christian? The Seventh-day   
   > Adventists *are* a valid Protestant denomination, after all. And if   
   > it would be better for some unrepentant people to have never been   
   > born, maybe God should show them mercy and refuse to send them to   
   > hell, but rather just gently removing them from existence.   
      
   You cannot raise a ‘Christian’. No man can. That idea is absurd as those   
   that have their babies baptized in the belief that it will save them.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > I may have read more “scholars” writings than you, as well as   
   bible   
   > > > > > > commentators as well. I know the strengths and weaknesses of many.   
   But I   
   > > > > > > would far rather base my understanding upon the words of God,   
   learn what   
   > > > > > > he   
   > > > > > > has to say, and make it mine, Than to use the words of others. Yet   
   I   
   > > > > > > have   
   > > > > > > used the words of others many times, for a variety of reasons. One   
   being   
   > > > > > > to   
   > > > > > > show what others say so that they might know and understand that   
   it is   
   > > > > > > not   
   > > > > > > just my understanding. That others know the same as well as more   
   than I.   
   > > > > > > People sometimes turn against the message because of the   
   messenger. I   
   > > > > > > have   
   > > > > > > seen that happen on more than one occasion when my entire reply to   
   a   
   > > > > > > question   
   > > > > > > or two was answered solely by quoting the Bible and what it said   
   that   
   > > > > > > would   
   > > > > > > answer their questions. Yet their response was against it because   
   it was   
   > > > > > > my interpretation of the scripture. In spite of the fact that they   
   fully   
   > > > > > > knew it was a direct quote.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > You've read Biblical scholarship but have never heard of the   
   Suffering   
   > > > > > Servant?   
   > > > >   
   > > > > Only vaguely, and it was never a biblical expression.   
   > > >   
   > > > Of course. It's an expression used by Biblical studies, not the Bible   
   > > > itself -- which you claimed to be familiar with.   
   > >   
   > > So then you agree there is no reason for me to be dining in that manner.   
   >   
   > No. What do you mean by "dining in that manner"?   
      
   Unfortunately I cannot think of the word I meant to use when I wrote that.   
   This new updated AI is throwing words into my typing as if it is trying to   
   outguess my thoughts. It is far worse not than it was on the last   
   incantation. I am running OS 26 and it is quite buggy and super irritating.   
   The first day of its final release I had two critical errors come up and sent   
   the reports of them to Apple, it is more like a beta release. It consumes far   
   more memory and puts a lot of foo foo in it for appearances sake, and whole   
   lot more. I told everyone I know in my family that uses it, NOT TO install   
   it, just update to the 16.7 and then turn off auto updates until they get bug   
   fixes out there. Several of them. It screwed up most all of by default   
   settings, file system order of it, photos and a host of other issues.   
      
   Who in the world cares about bubbles and bubbly things in graphics? Airheads?   
   Rant off.....   
      
   >   
   > > > > Not that it matters, it is only theological, meaning from the mind of   
   men,   
   > > > > not God.   
   > > >   
   > > > No, theology is itself the study of God.   
   > >   
   > > There are many gods to study. But how can one know a god that they never   
   > > met,   
   > > or experienced?   
   > > Why are there many atheists who got degrees in divinity and theology, yet   
   > > declere there is no God or gods? Do you ever spend time thinking?   
   Pondering?   
   > > Or considering what ifs? You know, serious thoughts about life, etc.?   
   >   
   > No, I've long past the "what if" stage. I'm now quite certain that   
   > theism in any of its varieties is wrong.   
      
   Belief systems of men is generally flawed. From such comes dogmas, creeds,   
   and the doctrines of men.   
   For that reason I always suggest going directly to the source.   
      
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > There are many better versed with the word of God than I. But what   
   I do   
   > > > > > > know,   
   > > > > > > I know. Because of experiences, trust, and the leading of the   
   Lord. And   
   > > > > > > I   
   > > > > > > am   
   > > > > > > happy and very content to follow his lead. And learn new things.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > There's no reason to believe the Lord is leading you.   
   > > > >   
   > > > > You have no way of determining that. You have not had an experiential   
   > > > > relationship with God so as to know one way or the other, as you have   
   been   
   > > > > shunning that your entire life.   
   > > >   
   > > > I determine that by observing that a supposed relationship with God is   
   > > > really just a psychological artifact of wishful thinking.   
   > >   
   > > Really? There are millions who have had experiential relationships with the   
   > > God of the Bible, who know God, received his love, and live in it, Like   
   > > Charlie Kirks wife has done, and without God in her life she would not have   
   > > experience a peace in her pain, a peace that only God could give as it far   
   > > surpasses all human understanding. There is no wishful thinking that could   
   > > create that or even experience it.   
   > > Jesus said to cast all your cares upon Him. And he will direct your path,   
   > > plus a whole lot more things for those who place their difficulties into   
   His   
   > > hands, expecting. Unless you have gone through times where there is nowhere   
   > > else to turn, you might never know what that is and how God works and   
   > > intervenes for His Children. Those that are born by Him, aka Born Again. I   
   > > have been there, done that, and I had peace when it seemed as if everything   
   > > I   
   > > cared about was failing. I’ve learned of other who have gone through   
   > > similar or seeming worse things that did I, and we all have one thing in   
   > > common that came out of it. Faith! A rock solid Belief in God. Via   
   > > experiences. Trust, confidence, Joy, peace, and an open door of   
   > > communication   
   > > with our Heavenly Father. None of it bound by religion.   
   >   
   > Mrs. Kirk did the right thing (in the sense of being consistent with   
   > her religion), while President Trump says he harbors hate for his   
   > political enemies.   
      
   Yes, and the President still has a lot to learn. It is natural for man to   
   think like that, especially initially.   
   Mrs. Kirk overcame that with great difficulty. Such is the case for most   
   instinctive reactions of men.   
   What she described as to what she went to and through I fully understand. The   
   depths of that pain, is even painful to consider. That is why I understood   
   what Trump said and why as well.   
      
   All of America is in a turmoil and going through a tumultuous time. I just   
   pray that America gets through it safely and all corrupted people get their   
   just desert as well as what is to be revealed politically will open the eyes   
   of all that have been conned.   
   >   
   >   
   > > > > > > > > Act 26:28 Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest   
   me to   
   > > > > > > > > be a Christian.   
   > > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > > Act 26:29 And Paul said, I would to God, that not only thou,   
   but also   
   > > > > > > > > all   
   > > > > > > > > that hear me this day, were both almost, and altogether such   
   as I am,   
   > > > > > > > > except these bonds.   
   > > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > > So?   
   > > > > > >   
   > > > > > > It was part of an answer that you requested.   
   > > > > >   
   > > > > > When did I ever request anything like that?   
   > > > >   
      
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