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   chronologically later passages in the Gospels claim.   And the 500   
   witnesses have nothing to do with what Paul was doing before his   
   conversion.   
      
   >There are other places in scripture that confirms these things, if you care   
   >to find the truth, such as,...   
   >   
   >Act 13:29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took   
   >him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre.   
   >   
   >Act 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:   
   >   
   >Act 13:31 And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from   
   >Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people.   
   >   
   >Act 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which   
   >was made unto the fathers,   
      
   Obviously, the Bible claims that Jesus rose physically from the dead,   
   but the question is when did they begin to claim that, and which parts   
   of the Bible claimed either of those things (mystical appearance   
   rather than walking and talking with The Eleven after the supposed   
   resurrection)?   
      
   >> > Hinduism has far more people than the Mormons, does that give them more   
   >> > legitimacy? Plus they have well over 1K gods.Some claim that Hinduism   
   >> > existed   
   >> > before Jesus. They accept spirituality and practice that a lot as well,   
   even   
   >> > though it is evil. See the rabbit holes in the thinking of the mind of   
   men?   
   >> > Given your reasoning a person could justify adultery by telling you that   
   as   
   >> > they were doing it, they were thinking of you and thus justify it.   
   >>   
   >> If Hinduism is a false religion, there must've been a point in time   
   >> when its founders were trying to create history, but according to you   
   >> they would've been disproven and discredited, leading to the collapse   
   >> of their religion -- but they're still here. How do you explain that?   
   >   
   >That is pure foolishness, and you have no historical basis of thought for   
   >that.   
      
   The point is, a wrong idea (like the supposed resurrection of Jesus)   
   can spread easily without it necessarily being based on facts.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > > So they vilified the non-Messianic Jews (referred to as   
   simply "the   
   >> > > > > > > > > Jews"), blaming them for Jesus' death and attacking Jewish   
   sects like   
   >> > > > > > > > > the Pharisees as they wrote the Gospels.   
   >> > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > That, my friend, is misleading and without understanding.   
   They were to   
   >> > > > > > > > be   
   >> > > > > > > > blamed for the Death of Christ, and they knew it at the time.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > Even the Jews who had nothing to do with Jesus' crucifixion   
   (e.g.,   
   >> > > > > > > children)?   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > All the ones in that crowd that proclaimed it were accepting the   
   >> > > > > > responsibility and with such emphasis that they were fully   
   willing to   
   >> > > > > > hold   
   >> > > > > > their children and their children’s children as culpable as well.   
   They   
   >> > > > > > did   
   >> > > > > > so knowing full well the severity of doing such a thing before   
   God and   
   >> > > > > > Man,   
   >> > > > > > and people in that culture did not take such things likely as they   
   >> > > > > > considered themselves bound by their words.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Was it the children's fault that they were supposedly indoctrinated   
   >> > > > > that way?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Is it your fault that your were born into a sin nature because of Adam   
   >> > > > Fall?   
   >> > > > And are you powerless to seek and receive deliverance from that   
   condition?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > No, it's not my fault. So why should I suffer for what Adam and Eve   
   >> > > supposedly did?   
   >> >   
   >> > You are their offspring you inherited their existence. They subjected the   
   >> > world to the power of Lucifer, making him the god of this world into which   
   >> > you were born.   
   >>   
   >> If I was born into such a world, it's not my fault if that birth leads   
   >> to trouble, is it?   
   >   
   >Blame it on your parents if it be such a curse to you. However, you are   
   >provided a way of escape, both while you are in this earth, as well as   
   >afterwards if you do not allow pride to block that door.   
      
   No, the blame belongs with God, not people's parents.   
      
   >> > You have a choice, once you reach the age of accountability of with   
   choosing   
   >> > the things of this world and all that goes with it, or accepting the   
   >> > promised   
   >> > Messiah and all that he provides for your escape from it, as well as the   
   >> > power to live accordingly and all power over the spiritual enemy. Choose   
   >> > blessings or choose curses, default is the world you were born into.   
   >>   
   >> What would be the point of choosing curses over blessings?   
   >   
   >Without Jesus that is the default.   
      
   But who would choose such a default? What would be the point?   
      
   >> > > > > > > > Mat 27:24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing,   
   butthat   
   >> > > > > > > > rather   
   >> > > > > > > > a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before   
   the   
   >> > > > > > > > multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just   
   person:   
   >> > > > > > > > see ye to it.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > Baloney.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > The story is well known, as is the story of what his wife saw In   
   a dream   
   >> > > > > > and relayed to him at the trial.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > It is well-known, but it's probably apocryphal.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Any excuse to justify the choices you make.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > How is "apocryphal" an excuse?   
   >> >   
   >> > You were avoiding accepting the uncontested truth.   
   >>   
   >> Which was what?   
   >   
   >What the context of this part of the exchange was about.   
      
   If you don't know what the word "apocryphal" means, just look it up.   
   Then answer my question.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > Mat 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His bloodbe   
   on us,   
   >> > > > > > > > and on our children.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > Which is exactly what the early Christian church *wanted* them   
   to have   
   >> > > > > > > said, so they could more easily differentiate themselves from   
   their   
   >> > > > > > > Jewish beginnings and neighbors.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > The early church were jewish believers in Christ, and their   
   relatives   
   >> > > > > > who   
   >> > > > > > did   
   >> > > > > > not believe in Jesus they for certain did not want them to be   
   alienated.   
   >> > > > > > You   
   >> > > > > > are just blowing smoke, speaking things without thinking and with   
   a knee   
   >> > > > > > jerk   
   >> > > > > > reaction. The church you were mosr familiar with was no more   
   related to   
   >> > > > > > Jesus   
   >> > > > > > than the JW. And to take those ideas and place that understanding   
   on   
   >> > > > > > other   
   >> > > > > > is a great error.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > No, they wanted to go beyond Judaism. That's why they argued that   
   >> > > > > Jewish ceremonial laws like kosher food didn't apply to Christians   
   and   
   >> > > > > newly converted Gentiles.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Yet they rigidly followed the Law Covenant in most areas. We have   
   already   
   >> > > > discussed that in part, not long ago. What did they know about Grace?   
   And   
   >> > > > why have many departed from them?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > But they began to throw off the Jewish yoke, as it were, as they began   
   >> > > to see themselves as Christians and not theological Jews. And grace   
   >> > > without works is dead, to paraphrase the book of James.   
   >> >   
   >> > There was no jewish yoke. They signed up, and at the time of Christ both   
   the   
   >> > northern and the southern tribes both had divorced themselves from God,   
   >> > choosing the gods of this earth and abandoned Him. Only a small remnant   
   >> > remained faithful to God.   
   >>   
   >> The book of Leviticus which was foisted on unsuspecting Israelites,   
      
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