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   >> > > trying to communicate, its lack of historicity is unsurprising given   
   >> > > that gospels were primarily written as theological documents rather   
   >> > > than chronological timelines.[11][12][13][14]"   
   >> >   
   >> > Odd that they recount the historic evidences of it, yet deny its   
   existence.   
   >> > Herod's personal friends were that only as long as they agreed with him.   
   And   
   >> > what you also quoted showed the ridiculous nature of this article. boys in   
   >> > Syria under the age of two be killed, [Augustus] said, 'It's better to be   
   >> > Herod's pig than his son’"   
   >>   
   >> Which has nothing to do with the supposed massacre of the infants. Did   
   >> you read about how it wasn't mentioned in Nicolaus of Damascus, the   
   >> non-Matthean gospels, or Josephus?   
   >   
   >You said you read the whole bible, Was Jesus born in Syria? Was Jerusalem   
   >located in Syria?   
      
   Jesus was born in Nazareth (being born in Bethlehem was just a later   
   fiction created to make Jesus seem more like a Messiah).  So of course   
   Jesus wasn't born in Syria.  You don't need to have Jesus born where   
   you live in order to mention he was born there.   
      
   >> > Even you should have been astute enough to catch that grievous error,   
   unless   
   >> > like in other areas you always accept what seems to fit your agenda, and   
   >> > deny all else.   
   >>   
   >> There was no grievous error, except on your part. Your agenda is   
   >> blinding you to that.   
   >   
   >There sure was. And you did not catch it. Your agenda blinded you to what you   
   >read. You focused on things that fit your narrative.   
      
   The idea of it being better to be a pig than a son has nothing to do   
   with the supposed massacre of the infants.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > > > You also learned these things when you were young, So   
   what’s with   
   >> > > > > > > > > > these lies?   
   >> > > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > > Look, liar, you know it's stupid to place too much   
   historical weight   
   >> > > > > > > > > on the legends and stories in the gospels, and yet you   
   continue to do   
   >> > > > > > > > > it. Why is that?   
   >> > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > Liar? What did I lie about?   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > You lied by acting as if other people accept the Bible as being   
   >> > > > > > > authoritative, which isn't true, as you must surely know by now.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > I know, as well as you, that many people believe that whether   
   they be   
   >> > > > > > Christian or not.   
   >> > > > > > And that does not make me a liar. I also know that you, just like   
   the   
   >> > > > > > well   
   >> > > > > > known atheists leaders, who were given enough time to die on a   
   deathbed   
   >> > > > > > realized their mistake yet most felt they fully deserved the end   
   result   
   >> > > > > > as   
   >> > > > > > described in the Bible and few very few humbled themselves before   
   God   
   >> > > > > > and   
   >> > > > > > sought His Mercy.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > So if you're not a liar, I have to ask, Why the lie? And didn't you   
   >> > > > > post a video about atheists on their deathbeds that was debunked by   
   >> > > > > several atheists here in alt.atheism?   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > Nope. Since what links I did give gave eyewitness accounts that no   
   one in   
   >> > > > your group could possibly dismiss truthfully.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Maybe it was Andrew that posted it. I'm sure we've discussed   
   >> > > recently, though.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > > > > > > I have also mentioned here, many, many times that I have   
   personal   
   >> > > > > > > > knowledge   
   >> > > > > > > > and understandings of God, even if they are limited greatly   
   due to the   
   >> > > > > > > > fact   
   >> > > > > > > > that I have had a personal experiential relationship with Him   
   and   
   >> > > > > > > > thereby   
   >> > > > > > > > know the reality of who He is, and that HE exists. Which you   
   very well   
   >> > > > > > > > know   
   >> > > > > > > > and choose to mock on a personal basis, so as to excuse your   
   choice to   
   >> > > > > > > > disbelieve and follow the lead of your god, Lucifer. Even   
   though you   
   >> > > > > > > > do   
   >> > > > > > > > not   
   >> > > > > > > > know him, yet the thoughts he implants in your head and   
   deceives you   
   >> > > > > > > > with,   
   >> > > > > > > > you chose to speak.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > Thoughts being implanted into heads is craziness.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > Then you accept the thinking that you are crazed?   
   >> > > > > > This is why the bible said one should control the thoughts before   
   >> > > > > > acting.   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > Umm... no, I don't believe in thoughts being implanted. That's you   
   >> > > > > that believes that!   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > It will not be long until you have a rude awakening and recognize   
   that you   
   >> > > > had a thought that was not your own perhaps noticeably different than   
   what   
   >> > > > you would normally have within your normal character.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Not long until? What's wrong with now?   
   >> >   
   >> > There is a time and a place for everything.   
   >>   
   >> And the time for a rude awakening is now.   
   >   
   >God knows the timing.   
      
   We know better.   
      
   >> > > > > > > > > You realize that you're replying to Andrew with this last   
   screed and   
   >> > > > > > > > > not me, right? And feel free to remove alt.re   
   igion.christian if   
   >> > > > > > > > > alt.atheism messages are bothering you.   
   >> > > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > > Your ignorances belong amongst yourselves, as many there   
   insist. Yet   
   >> > > > > > > > you   
   >> > > > > > > > all   
   >> > > > > > > > insist of posting to arc which is not related to aa. I have   
   been   
   >> > > > > > > > posting   
   >> > > > > > > > lately with my replies marked for followups to aa, so as not   
   to cross   
   >> > > > > > > > post   
   >> > > > > > > > in   
   >> > > > > > > > an effort to wean you off from crossposting.   
   >> > > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > > I didn't add a.r.c. I only post to theist newsgroups when they   
   post   
   >> > > > > > > to alt.atheism.   
   >> > > > > >   
   >> > > > > > You knew this thread originated there, and bear/sharing the blame   
   for   
   >> > > > > > not   
   >> > > > > > trimming the NG’s/   
   >> > > > >   
   >> > > > > I don't trim them, because I believe people should be able to see   
   the   
   >> > > > > reactions to what they see posted in their own newsgroups.   
   >> > > >   
   >> > > > OH? So you think you know from where peoples comments originate?   
   >> > >   
   >> > > I know what groups it's being read in, which serves the purpose.   
   >> >   
   >> > And you know that how?   
   >>   
   >> How do I know what?   
   >   
   >LOL,, already lost track in just four lines?   
      
   Are you still wondering how I could know what's being read in a   
   newsgroup with cross-posts?  LOL!   
      
   >> > > > > > > > I do not know if Andrew originated the cross post of not. And   
   he   
   >> > > > > > > > really   
   >> > > > > > > > shouldn’t.. Paul the apostle is a good example of that, as he   
   >> > > > > > > > debated   
   >> > > > > > > > those   
   >> > > > > > > > who were against God in their own temples and places of   
   discourse. He   
   >> > > > > > > > did   
   >> > > > > > > > not   
   >> > > > > > > > drag them to a place of worship to God, or to a temple of   
   God, to   
   >> > > > > > > > argue   
   >> > > > > > > > and   
   >> > > > > > > > debate. He only stopped doing that, depending of the location   
   when   
   >> > > > > > > > those   
   >> > > > > > > > he   
   >> > > > > > > > debated could no longer reasonably debate and sought to kill   
   him   
   >> > > > > > > > because   
   >> > > > > > > > of   
   >> > > > > > > > his testimony, works of God, and as a result of his teachings   
   drew   
   >> > > > > > > > many   
   >> > > > > > > > away   
   >> > > > > > > > from their false gods and saw their income decreasing.   
   Meaning the   
   >> > > > > > > > meat   
   >> > > > > > > > markets that sold meat that was offered as a sacrifice to   
   their gods,   
   >> > > > > > > > the   
      
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